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I guess that either the hadite block was too tough to drill or the conduit was already cut and threaded. Had to be a pipefitter to have a grinder that tough. Could have at least put a washer at that nut. Now which screwdriver does Sparky use to remove those condulet coverplates?
No insulation on the pipe so it's likely chilled water or make-up water for a boiler or chiller, but in any case, that install is an abortion start to finish. Adding to the botch are those hardware store fasteners, flanged joinery calls for A307B at the very least.
Contract stipulates progress payments. Wire runs must be complete before next payment. Change Order required for extra work. Moving conduit or pipe is extra work. Don't have time for that. Stop work on govt contract at your own peril. Besides, C.O. could be used to construe assignment of fault. There will be plenty of time at the end of the project to correct all the BS like hot water hooked to toilets (true story), 16" waterline fed from 6" inlet (true again), or stairway covering large picture window in lobby (also true) of course all at cost plus.
But the problem originated with the architect and his deputy inspector.
Was an Electrical Engineer and Inspector for almost 40 years. Looks to me like the electrical was in place first (LB cover and seal are properly placed and doesn't look like any weird alignments or bulging gasket). The flange paint next to the 3/4" nut on the water pipe just above the right two LBs appears to be chowdered up somewhat as if it took some finagling to tighten it. On another note, during a remodel (which this apparently is) the electricians are generally the first to install along a wall and the other trades come along later. The fitters, plumbers and ductwork folks aren't supposed to bury other work, but it happens all the time. They probably coordinated up front as to routing, pipe sizes, etc, but didn't count on the flange being located right there.
They let the electrician go and hired a DEI plumber instead.
ReplyDeleteYah gotta do what ya gotta do to get the job done.
ReplyDeleteI guess that either the hadite block was too tough to drill or the conduit was already cut and threaded. Had to be a pipefitter to have a grinder that tough. Could have at least put a washer at that nut. Now which screwdriver does Sparky use to remove those condulet coverplates?
ReplyDeletePlease tell me that all those involved were flogged, then fired.
ReplyDeleteI take it you've never worked fedgov contracts.
DeleteClassic "if it dudna fit, make it fit"!
ReplyDeleteI saw something like that done with large ductwork in the Colstrip power houses.
ReplyDeleteBoth appear to be new construction judging by the paper tags on the conduit and the shiny new nuts on the pipe
ReplyDeleteI would sue the contractor into extinction. If it's a gov't worker, it's "Oh well..."
ReplyDeleteThat flange once rated for 600 psig is now only good to 150 psig
ReplyDeleteIf that. Wonder what's in the pipe.
DeleteNo insulation on the pipe so it's likely chilled water or make-up water for a boiler or chiller, but in any case, that install is an abortion start to finish. Adding to the botch are those hardware store fasteners, flanged joinery calls for A307B at the very least.
ReplyDeleteContract stipulates progress payments. Wire runs must be complete before next payment. Change Order required for extra work. Moving conduit or pipe is extra work. Don't have time for that. Stop work on govt contract at your own peril. Besides, C.O. could be used to construe assignment of fault. There will be plenty of time at the end of the project to correct all the BS like hot water hooked to toilets (true story), 16" waterline fed from 6" inlet (true again), or stairway covering large picture window in lobby (also true) of course all at cost plus.
ReplyDeleteBut the problem originated with the architect and his deputy inspector.
Was an Electrical Engineer and Inspector for almost 40 years. Looks to me like the electrical was in place first (LB cover and seal are properly placed and doesn't look like any weird alignments or bulging gasket). The flange paint next to the 3/4" nut on the water pipe just above the right two LBs appears to be chowdered up somewhat as if it took some finagling to tighten it.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, during a remodel (which this apparently is) the electricians are generally the first to install along a wall and the other trades come along later. The fitters, plumbers and ductwork folks aren't supposed to bury other work, but it happens all the time. They probably coordinated up front as to routing, pipe sizes, etc, but didn't count on the flange being located right there.
When your pipefitters are stupider than your electricians, and both of them aren't as stupid as your architect(s).
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