And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Wednesday, January 10, 2024
That's a hot barrel, and it looks like it's sagging
The only possible rational excuse for destroying a barrel that way is if you are facing a Chinese style human wave attack and you don't have time to change out the barrel. My uncle is 91 years old, he served 38 years in the Army with his first deployment to Korea during the war. He talked about the irrational willingness to die the enemy would display in the face of massive firepower. Something the western mind has trouble comprehending. After Korea he spent several years stationed in Germany and became fluent in German, married a local and I have two cousins born there. He then did two tours in Da Nang and finished his career at Fort Carson where he retired in 1988. He always has good stories to tell when I see him.
Most men back then were BAMFs. My grandfather got a purple heart from action he saw just outside Bastogne during those festivities. He then came home, and among his escapades was making shine. Drove my grandma crazy with his stunts. She married and divorced him twice before throwing in the towel.
Back in high school had a teacher who was a waist gunner in the B-17s, he had a story... The armor sergeant at the base would give them a hard time about not changing the barrels in time, he came along to show them once and the first time they got into it with all the bullets zipping around them the sergeant didn't stop to change the barrel but he did stop complaining about it. FWIW my HS teacher ended up in a POW camp...
Someone is an idiot. And if military, that's grounds for an NJP, at minimum. If not a righteous wall-to-wall counseling session with the platoon sergeant.
Being in a situation of being over run really doesn't allow cooling of the barrel. As a Huey gunship door gunner for 2-1/2 years I turned several M-60 barrels that color. Never ceased on up but retired them as soon as we got back to our company. I alway felt the wind stream sitting in the doorway had to have let us a run so many rounds through them. That is one of the reasons the 7.62 minigun is able to continuous fire. General Electric also built some 5.56mm miniguns but the Army felt the 7.62 30 caliber being bigger and heavier did more damage and I can't argue with that. And then there's our M-39 20mm single barrel/rotating cylinder (just lake a revolver) that we hung out the right door of a Huey. 1500 rounds a minute and really loud. Might have to tell you about that later. And to think they actually paid me to do that job!
I've gauged M-249s that had been fired continuously to the point of melting the upper handguard down around the barrel inside the fore end, with the rivets holding that assembly together stuck in the goo like raisins in bread. The 5.56mm barrel swallowed a 7.62mm bore erosion gauge all the way to the I.D. tag split ring, with enough free space to rattle just forward of the chamber. The entire unit got corrective training after that range fire.
Met a young man who did that to a MaDeuce. He had scars all over from hot brass. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. He is alive to tell about it.
Feed it some of the blue ammo 😉
ReplyDeletecook off
DeleteWhat it says to me is....there's another idiot with more money than brains.
ReplyDeleteBend it so it can shoot around corners.
ReplyDeleteThat's a Soviet or Russian gun. Ukraine maybe?
ReplyDelete1st ANGLICO That is why the M-60 has a spare barrel.
ReplyDeleteSpare barrels and asbestos gloves.
DeleteOur old Ww-2 era .30 caliber machineguns in our tanks in Vietnam also had spare barrels (and gloves).
The only possible rational excuse for destroying a barrel that way is if you are facing a Chinese style human wave attack and you don't have time to change out the barrel. My uncle is 91 years old, he served 38 years in the Army with his first deployment to Korea during the war. He talked about the irrational willingness
ReplyDeleteto die the enemy would display in the face of massive firepower. Something the western mind has trouble comprehending. After Korea he spent several years
stationed in Germany and became fluent in German, married a local and I have
two cousins born there. He then did two tours in Da Nang and finished his career at Fort Carson where he retired in 1988. He always has good stories to tell when I see him.
Your uncle is a BAMF.
DeleteRecord his stories.
Most men back then were BAMFs. My grandfather got a purple heart from action he saw just outside Bastogne during those festivities. He then came home, and among his escapades was making shine. Drove my grandma crazy with his stunts. She married and divorced him twice before throwing in the towel.
DeleteWe must be related.
DeleteWhat's a new barrel cost?
ReplyDeleteBack in high school had a teacher who was a waist gunner in the B-17s, he had a story... The armor sergeant at the base would give them a hard time about not changing the barrels in time, he came along to show them once and the first time they got into it with all the bullets zipping around them the sergeant didn't stop to change the barrel but he did stop complaining about it.
ReplyDeleteFWIW my HS teacher ended up in a POW camp...
Reality is a m f'er.
DeleteSomeone is an idiot.
ReplyDeleteAnd if military, that's grounds for an NJP, at minimum.
If not a righteous wall-to-wall counseling session with the platoon sergeant.
Being in a situation of being over run really doesn't allow cooling of the barrel. As a Huey gunship door gunner for 2-1/2 years I turned several M-60 barrels that color. Never ceased on up but retired them as soon as we got back to our company. I alway felt the wind stream sitting in the doorway had to have let us a run so many rounds through them. That is one of the reasons the 7.62 minigun is able to continuous fire. General Electric also built some 5.56mm miniguns but the Army felt the 7.62 30 caliber being bigger and heavier did more damage and I can't argue with that. And then there's our M-39 20mm single barrel/rotating cylinder (just lake a revolver) that we hung out the right door of a Huey. 1500 rounds a minute and really loud. Might have to tell you about that later. And to think they actually paid me to do that job!
DeleteMilitary. Ukraine. I wouldn't be completely surprised if they expect the Cargo god to immediately deliver a new and much improved replacement.
Deletewojtek
When you have good cause, it's not a problem.
DeleteI don't see a stack of bodies in the foreground, so that isn't the reason for this case.
Private S-For-B needs a serious ass-kicking.
Criminal
ReplyDeleteI've gauged M-249s that had been fired continuously to the point of melting the upper handguard down around the barrel inside the fore end, with the rivets holding that assembly together stuck in the goo like raisins in bread.
ReplyDeleteThe 5.56mm barrel swallowed a 7.62mm bore erosion gauge all the way to the I.D. tag split ring, with enough free space to rattle just forward of the chamber.
The entire unit got corrective training after that range fire.
Met a young man who did that to a MaDeuce. He had scars all over from hot brass. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. He is alive to tell about it.
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