And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Not a 637 or 688 class. The fair water planes were in the middle of a 20' sail for 637's and the BRA-34 is not in the middle of the sail (only the Snorkel Mast and BRD-7 are in the middle) for 688.
Many years ago, I visited "Patriots Point" near Charleston, SC. One of the displays is an old WW2 submarine. People are allowed to enter and wander inside. It was scary since it was so small and confining. I thought that US Marine tanks were claustrophobic!!!
Diesel boat submariners were a different breed of men. The USS Silversides (SS236), another WWII boat, is docked in Muskegon, MI about 30 miles from my house.
One year we went to Honolulu and couldn't get out to the Arizona Memorial (Jap tourists bought up all the tickets). So we went to the WWII Submarine Museum next door. There was a fleet boat you could tour through. But the thing that got to me was the memorial to the subs lost during the war. A low artificial hill, a winding path spiraling to the top. Along the path white slabs of stone. Each stone a lost sub. The name of the sub in gold, the date reported lost and on the back inscribed the names of the crew. The sub at the bottom of the hill the first sub lost chronologically, at the top of the hill the last one reported missing. Hard to forget seeing something like that.
During my Area Studies training in 1968 at Ft Holabird, we took a WW2 diesel boat out on an infiltration exercise and manned four man rubber rafts from the middle of the Chesapeake rowing thru midsummer thunderstorms at 2-3 am into Ft Hamilton’s WW1 costal artillery battlements…
I’m 6’2’’ and the only time I could stand up straight and not be breathing diesel fumes was when we were inflating the raft on deck..
Was on four diesel boats from '71 to '73 (SS347, SS410, SS420, SS424). I was on the decommissioning crew of SS347 and SS410. The only thing that could be smelled on, or off, of the boats was diesel oil. Still think that DB's should make a come back. Much less expensive even adding in upgrades.
From the position of the planes on the sail, could be a Permit class SSN.
ReplyDeleteVisual search says it's USS Haddock SSN-621.
DeleteAs I thought, a Permit class.
DeleteI think it's Sturgeon Class. Permit sails were narrower and shorter.
ReplyDeleteLoa Angeles class attack sub
DeleteNot a 637 or 688 class. The fair water planes were in the middle of a 20' sail for 637's and the BRA-34 is not in the middle of the sail (only the Snorkel Mast and BRD-7 are in the middle) for 688.
DeleteAgree with Permit Class
Many years ago, I visited "Patriots Point" near Charleston, SC. One of the displays is an old WW2 submarine. People are allowed to enter and wander inside. It was scary since it was so small and confining. I thought that US Marine tanks were claustrophobic!!!
ReplyDeleteDiesel boat submariners were a different breed of men. The USS Silversides (SS236), another WWII boat, is docked in Muskegon, MI about 30 miles from my house.
DeleteOne year we went to Honolulu and couldn't get out to the Arizona Memorial (Jap tourists bought up all the tickets). So we went to the WWII Submarine Museum next door. There was a fleet boat you could tour through.
DeleteBut the thing that got to me was the memorial to the subs lost during the war.
A low artificial hill, a winding path spiraling to the top. Along the path white slabs of stone. Each stone a lost sub. The name of the sub in gold, the date reported lost and on the back inscribed the names of the crew. The sub at the bottom of the hill the first sub lost chronologically, at the top of the hill the last one reported missing.
Hard to forget seeing something like that.
You would never see sailors’s top side, while the ship is underway without life vests on these days.
ReplyDeleteSome pretty small feet mixed in...
ReplyDeleteDuring my Area Studies training in 1968 at Ft Holabird, we took a WW2 diesel boat out on an infiltration exercise and manned four man rubber rafts from the middle of the Chesapeake rowing thru midsummer thunderstorms at 2-3 am into Ft Hamilton’s WW1 costal artillery battlements…
ReplyDeleteI’m 6’2’’ and the only time I could stand up straight and not be breathing diesel fumes was when we were inflating the raft on deck..
Gotta be nice getting away from the farts and BO for a while.
ReplyDeleteSmoke um if you got um.
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing a Panama Canal transit
ReplyDeleteWas on four diesel boats from '71 to '73 (SS347, SS410, SS420, SS424). I was on the decommissioning crew of SS347 and SS410. The only thing that could be smelled on, or off, of the boats was diesel oil. Still think that DB's should make a come back. Much less expensive even adding in upgrades.
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Returning to port.
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