And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Years ago I was acquainted with someone through my work that was stalked, killed and partly eaten by a mountain lion near Placerville, Ca. They are not harmless, and as you can see, they can be very big.
Kevin, what firearm did you use? I'm a bit concerned as I spend a great deal of time bikepacking around Oklahoma, Texas and Arkansas, and I head for Idaho in May. There are large cats around there for sure. I have a .40 Smith & Wesson. Is that sufficient?
Now that was a close call for that pooch. I think I would have skipped the bear spray and gone right for a gun---but I wasn't there. I always worried about my dogs while camping in the wilds, thinking that a coyote or cat might get them.
Meanwhile last Sunday morning California Department of Fish and Wildlife (formerly Department of Fish and Game) Conservation Officers (formerly Wardens) were called to a home in Pacifica, California where they witnessed a mountain lion eating a chicken in the backyard of a home where the cat had swiped the bird from a chicken coop. The Wardens... er, Conservation Officers told the homeowners and their neighbors that the cat presented no threat to public safety and were urged to avoid their backyards and not bring pets near the area.
Hopefully all the people in this neighborhood voted in the late 90s to end the hunting of mountain lions in California.
I've said for many years - people who do not live in proximity with apex predators (brown/grizzly bears, wolves, mountain lions, etc) cannot begin to understand the conflicts that exist between humans and these animals. I remember a dark and snowy night in SE Alaska on cross country skis with my three dogs as a pack of wolves drew ever closer. I was relieved to get back to the truck without incident. I don't hate wolves as an idea, but _living_ in close proximity with them is like living in close proximity to a street gang of thugs with no compunction about killing. Not fun.
Dejoh, there are plenty of reasons to kill mountain lions. They are not afraid of people and will come right onto a house porch to eat house dogs and cats. They kill farmer's animals in the fields.
Most importantly, they do attack humans, of all sizes, in a variety of environments. We just don't hear it in the news as it gives the lions a bad rap sheet and the Western States don't want to do that.
Killing a problem animal is not what's being done here. People are killing them because it's fun. Mostly fat pussy's.
From the link:
Many years of wise management and strictly regulated hunting has resulted in Alberta being the premier location in North America for large Boone & Crockett quality ‘toms’. Our lions are second to none and TNT’s proven track record for producing, even under adverse conditions, has become well known. Well bred and trained hounds, along with the hardest working and best equipped crew in the business ensures you a great hound hunting experience while in pursuit of one of North America’s most elusive trophies.
There ARE so damned many of the things in Alberta that hunting is viable. Period. End of fucking story. No ifs and or buts, or it would be fucking illegal, kapiche? California's getting to where they're a real problem now after decades of no hunting. I suppose only fat pussies hunt brown bear in Alaska, too? Where there are plenty of bear. Hunters are generally not pussies, though many anti-hunters are.
There was one roaming about 15 miles east of here. It slowly ate its way through the farmers small sheep herd...until the herd was gone. About 1 sheep every other day. We get the odd one walking down the river valley coming from out of the mountains now. This is not their natural habitat, so they don't belong here. But fires and drought can shift ranges. Now they are found out in central Saskatchewan. Hunting is highly regulated, and few are allowed to trap them. Look pretty but are not. Steal you child right out your back yard.
The farmer should pull 24 hour guard until he kills the perp. If you allow your child to be killed in your own back yard by anyone or anything you should be killed.
Is there any absolute reason to kill the creature? Id love to see a big cat hold up a human as a trophy.
ReplyDeleteYup! X-country skiers can (and do) annoy this little pussycat
DeleteYears ago I was acquainted with someone through my work that was stalked, killed and partly eaten by a mountain lion near Placerville, Ca. They are not harmless, and as you can see, they can be very big.
DeleteI believe you're referring to Barbara Barsalou Schoener. She never knew what hit her as she was attacked from behind and her skull was crushed.
DeleteThat happens all the time, D.D.
DeleteThe cats usually eat the trophy before they can learn to use a camera or master taxidermy.
Killed one that jumped out of a tree at me, after he made a run at the wife in our yard.
DeleteKevin, what firearm did you use? I'm a bit concerned as I spend a great deal of time bikepacking around Oklahoma, Texas and Arkansas, and I head for Idaho in May. There are large cats around there for sure. I have a .40 Smith & Wesson. Is that sufficient?
Deletehttps://www.newsweek.com/mountain-lion-attack-eat-pet-dog-california-santa-barbara-1662937
DeleteNow that was a close call for that pooch. I think I would have skipped the bear spray and gone right for a gun---but I wasn't there. I always worried about my dogs while camping in the wilds, thinking that a coyote or cat might get them.
DeleteThat is a very old picture, but still - a big cat.
ReplyDelete@Dejoh - You're psycho.
Meanwhile last Sunday morning California Department of Fish and Wildlife (formerly Department of Fish and Game) Conservation Officers (formerly Wardens) were called to a home in Pacifica, California where they witnessed a mountain lion eating a chicken in the backyard of a home where the cat had swiped the bird from a chicken coop. The Wardens... er, Conservation Officers told the homeowners and their neighbors that the cat presented no threat to public safety and were urged to avoid their backyards and not bring pets near the area.
ReplyDeleteHopefully all the people in this neighborhood voted in the late 90s to end the hunting of mountain lions in California.
S.-S.-S.!
DeleteGoes to prove we are not at the top of the food pyramid and will be quite tasty with ketchup...
ReplyDeleteI've said for many years - people who do not live in proximity with apex predators (brown/grizzly bears, wolves, mountain lions, etc) cannot begin to understand the conflicts that exist between humans and these animals. I remember a dark and snowy night in SE Alaska on cross country skis with my three dogs as a pack of wolves drew ever closer. I was relieved to get back to the truck without incident. I don't hate wolves as an idea, but _living_ in close proximity with them is like living in close proximity to a street gang of thugs with no compunction about killing. Not fun.
ReplyDeleteDejoh, there are plenty of reasons to kill mountain lions. They are not afraid of people and will come right onto a house porch to eat house dogs and cats. They kill farmer's animals in the fields.
ReplyDeleteMost importantly, they do attack humans, of all sizes, in a variety of environments. We just don't hear it in the news as it gives the lions a bad rap sheet and the Western States don't want to do that.
Understood. I've never been in the shoes as one facing this threat.
DeleteThe only good mountain lion is a....well there's a picture of a good one.
ReplyDeleteKilling a problem animal is not what's being done here. People are killing them because it's fun. Mostly fat pussy's.
ReplyDeleteFrom the link:
Many years of wise management and strictly regulated hunting has resulted in Alberta being the premier location in North America for large Boone & Crockett quality ‘toms’. Our lions are second to none and TNT’s proven track record for producing, even under adverse conditions, has become well known.
Well bred and trained hounds, along with the hardest working and best equipped crew in the business ensures you a great hound hunting experience while in pursuit of one of North America’s most elusive trophies.
Big big big cat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4KE10HUy04
ReplyDeleteIn other words, ghostsniper, there's so many of the damned things that hunting is more than viable. Pussies my pale Polish ass.
ReplyDeleteThose aren't my words Larry, they are yours.
DeletePale polish ass indeed.
People are killing them because it's fun. Mostly fat pussy's.
DeleteHorseshit, ghostsniper. If those aren't your words from your comment, whose are they?
You said, "In other words,..."
DeleteKnock it off Larry.
I stand by my original statement.
There ARE so damned many of the things in Alberta that hunting is viable. Period. End of fucking story. No ifs and or buts, or it would be fucking illegal, kapiche? California's getting to where they're a real problem now after decades of no hunting. I suppose only fat pussies hunt brown bear in Alaska, too? Where there are plenty of bear. Hunters are generally not pussies, though many anti-hunters are.
DeleteThere was one roaming about 15 miles east of here. It slowly ate its way through the farmers small sheep herd...until the herd was gone. About 1 sheep every other day. We get the odd one walking down the river valley coming from out of the mountains now. This is not their natural habitat, so they don't belong here. But fires and drought can shift ranges. Now they are found out in central Saskatchewan. Hunting is highly regulated, and few are allowed to trap them. Look pretty but are not. Steal you child right out your back yard.
ReplyDeleteThe farmer should pull 24 hour guard until he kills the perp.
DeleteIf you allow your child to be killed in your own back yard by anyone or anything you should be killed.
I found one dead on the side of the road once that was about that size.
ReplyDeleteI have cougars in my neighborhood, in Sauk County, WI. If I am taking out the garbage after dark, I take my SIG .45 ACP with me.
ReplyDeletePathetic.
ReplyDelete