And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Wednesday, August 27, 2025
Check out the length of those cartridges. Any ideas what they might be? 45-90?
45-120, aka 45-31/4. Not a traditional chambering for 1874 Sharps, but was cataloged by Winchester as an "express" load in the late 1800's. "Quigley" used a 45-110 aka 45-27/8. This Sharps has a sight that can make good use of either.
El Segundo: Tell me something... Who are you? Bob Valdez: I told you once before - Bob Valdez. El Segundo: You know something, Bob Valdez, you hit one, I think, 700-800 yards. Bob Valdez: Closer to a thousand. El Segundo: What was it? Sharps? Bob Valdez: My own load. El Segundo: You ever hunt buffalo? Bob Valdez: Apache. El Segundo: I knew it. When? Bob Valdez: Before I know better.
If you use a leather padded buttpad, that metal baseplate doesn't hurt too bad. Having said that, 4 or 5 rounds downrange is usually enough for me. It sakes your farm somethin' fierce.
I have an Italian jobshop replica from the '70's that will drop rounds in a 5 gallon paint bucket lid at 400 yards all day long using my handloads and some paper patched boolits. . .
To increase the powder capacity they lengthened the case again and again. Case lengths are as follows 45-90 is 2.4", 45-100 is 2.6", 45-110 is 2.875" and 45-120 is 3.25". Al_in_Ottawa
Long story short, health issues preclude me from joining you. I will, however, be shooting with you vicariously. Thanks for the invite.
Pro Tip- While CA residents are legally allowed to bring only 50 rounds of ammunition into the state, there are no limits as to how much a non-resident can bring in.
Looks like 450 Nitro
ReplyDeletequigley hand-loads
ReplyDelete45-120 for that Sharps. OUCH they do kick! Haven't shot it since I turned 70. ---ken
ReplyDeleteI agree. .45-120 Sharps, 3-1/4".
DeleteI watched Quigley two nights ago. The valley shown here is a spittin image of the one in the movie.
ReplyDeletePerhaps this photo is from making the movie.
Nope. No eucalyp trees.Wrong kind of topography.
Delete45-120, aka 45-31/4. Not a traditional chambering for 1874 Sharps, but was cataloged by Winchester as an "express" load in the late 1800's. "Quigley" used a
ReplyDelete45-110 aka 45-27/8. This Sharps has a sight that can make good use of either.
Yep, 45-110.
DeleteSee here:
https://shilohrifle.com/rifles/1874-sharps-rifle/1874-hartford-clone-en/
And here:
https://www.rockislandauction.com/riac-blog/what-is-the-sharps-rifle-quigley-down-under
It looks more like the scene in "Valdez is Coming".
ReplyDeletenot even close....
DeleteAn Elmore Leonard story.
DeleteEl Segundo: Tell me something... Who are you?
Bob Valdez: I told you once before - Bob Valdez.
El Segundo: You know something, Bob Valdez, you hit one, I think, 700-800 yards.
Bob Valdez: Closer to a thousand.
El Segundo: What was it? Sharps?
Bob Valdez: My own load.
El Segundo: You ever hunt buffalo?
Bob Valdez: Apache.
El Segundo: I knew it. When?
Bob Valdez: Before I know better.
I have that movie in my DVR. I watch it about once a month or so. Never gets old. Sadly, they don't make actors like Lancaster any more.
DeleteNemo
Looks like that will re-dislocate my clavicle that's barely in place already!
ReplyDeleteIf you use a leather padded buttpad, that metal baseplate doesn't hurt too bad.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, 4 or 5 rounds downrange is usually enough for me. It sakes your farm somethin' fierce.
I have an Italian jobshop replica from the '70's that will drop rounds in a 5 gallon paint bucket lid at 400 yards all day long using my handloads and some paper patched boolits. . .
To increase the powder capacity they lengthened the case again and again.
ReplyDeleteCase lengths are as follows 45-90 is 2.4", 45-100 is 2.6", 45-110 is 2.875" and 45-120 is 3.25".
Al_in_Ottawa
I am impressed by the knowledge shown here.
ReplyDeleteElmo, I have business in Oakdale coming up. You interested in meeting? I'll be bringing my shooters which aren't instant felonies.
Long story short, health issues preclude me from joining you. I will, however, be shooting with you vicariously. Thanks for the invite.
DeletePro Tip- While CA residents are legally allowed to bring only 50 rounds of ammunition into the state, there are no limits as to how much a non-resident can bring in.
Have fun!
If the shooter has the skill, with that weapon, anything in the valley is fair game.
ReplyDeleteLove my Sharps 45-70s. Thems are big boys. Bigger than Quigleys.
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Good find!
Delete40-82? It’s possible.
ReplyDeleteVery handsome rifle.
ReplyDelete105MM? French 75? German 88!
ReplyDeleteI have a Thompson Contender in 45/70. 14" barrel. One or two shots is more than enough amusement
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