And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Saturday, December 16, 2023
Exclusive 2024 Tesla Cybertruck Full Review & Drag Race
While I like Musk for his genius and innovation…this thing looks like a doorstop, zero style, like something you’d draw in 8th Grade while sitting in a boring history class.
I agree with most of the criticisms, but still, it's amazing that something so radical would ever get the "go ahead" for manufacture anywhere else but here. The whole "we will make everything" is also an attractive attitude. Plus, notice no one else anywhere is letting it all hang out with something this insane. I'm sorta proud we Americans did it, although I'll never buy one. My Dodge gets everything I need done, and done well, after all.
Don't get me wrong. I don't object to it being made for those that might want to buy it. Freedom, Baby.
But at the same time, it saddens me that there's no market for an affordable pickup with roll up windows, wind wings, a manual transmission and an engine compartment that allows the owner access to easily do his own wrenching on a vehicle that doesn't require him to go to a $200 an hour dealer to fix a simple problem.
But then I realize I'm a contrarian dinosaur whose living in the past, when trucks were trucks that weren't all lathered up with computer chips, monitors, inverters and 9-way tailgates. Sigh.
I couldn't ever see myself driving one, and I think anybody owning one at this stage is a gizmo-addict fool. The only thing that I admire about this entire electric-car enterprise, is the sense of vision-with-commitment that Elon brings to it, as he does his space program. I believe the concept will ultimately fail, but that advancements in battery technology might - might make hybrids a viable competitor in certain situations - if the maintenance & upkeep costs don't drive them into extinction.
There are at least 2 of those up here in Interior Alaska (perhaps for testing?) that I’ve seen. It was -30 yesterday morning. Be interesting to see how they do. Considering it’s 360 or 400 miles or so to the nearest city of any size, depending on which of the 2 routes you choose, and there is zero charging ability in between, why would anyone buy one if these? The one way trip takes 6 hrs at best on a summer day; it’s taken me 12 in spring & fall when the weather gets snowy. Are you willing to trust that battery ?
Everybody that is down talking this thing hasn't been paying attention to the market. Nobody buys a truck for truck reasons any more. 90% of the NEW trucks on the road today are NEVER used as trucks, in the traditional sense. With 4 doors, these gluttons on the road are haulers of multiple grossly obese people bouncing from Outback to Chili's to Applebees all day long. I've never owned a vehicle with a "TV screen" in it and probably never will, I just don't see the point and don't really care.
@Elmo...Too bad we can't get Toyota Hilux pickups here in America (Tacoma is similar but more dodads for grocery getting), I'd buy one in a heartbeat (and as the Top Gear BBC boys discovered, you can't kill them).
Thanks. It's beautiful in it's own ugly way, like Elon's pickup. I bookmarked this so I can follow the progress of the 'IMV 0' in America. Should be fun.
I found the window sticker for my 2003 Ford Ranger with a five speed, roll-up windows, radio with CD player and it's only option, A/C. My cousin bought it new for $10,000. The sticker price was $14,670. Cousin said this pickup was considered to be a 'loss leader' and that there were many sold by local Ford dealers.
Adjusted for inflation that $10,000 pickup would sell for $16,333 today. I have a feeling if Ford stated making them again they'd sell a ton of them, even at that price.
Time will come be putting a Chevy small block and 79 K1500 all the time 4 wheel drive driveline in it. Betcha, you watch, these electric vehicles will be a dime a dozen when the battery pack shits the bed cause only a few will afford 20-30 grand for a new battery set. Its a really cool truck for a specific reason, its made out of 304L Stainless Steel, never rust out. Put a conventional driveline in ine and its a truck they can bury you in last so long, or hand it down to your son or daughter. Thats the way shit should be. Not this built in failure crap they been conning everyone into buying the last 40-50 years. Screw that. Time to change shit up. Be poetic justice too, if you ask me.
What a POS...
ReplyDelete***UGH!!!***
My F150 hybrid can get me from Quartzite AZ to the California coast and back without refueling. Hard pass.
ReplyDeleteWhile I like Musk for his genius and innovation…this thing looks like a doorstop, zero style, like something you’d draw in 8th Grade while sitting in a boring history class.
ReplyDeleteThat's not a truck, it's a gimmick. And it's an ugly gimmick at that.
ReplyDeleteIf I saw one of those things on the road I wouldn't think "Wow. That's cutting edge", I'd think "A fool and his money are soon parted".
I agree with most of the criticisms, but still, it's amazing that something so radical would ever get the "go ahead" for manufacture anywhere else but here. The whole "we will make everything" is also an attractive attitude. Plus, notice no one else anywhere is letting it all hang out with something this insane. I'm sorta proud we Americans did it, although I'll never buy one. My Dodge gets everything I need done, and done well, after all.
DeleteDon't get me wrong. I don't object to it being made for those that might want to buy it. Freedom, Baby.
DeleteBut at the same time, it saddens me that there's no market for an affordable pickup with roll up windows, wind wings, a manual transmission and an engine compartment that allows the owner access to easily do his own wrenching on a vehicle that doesn't require him to go to a $200 an hour dealer to fix a simple problem.
But then I realize I'm a contrarian dinosaur whose living in the past, when trucks were trucks that weren't all lathered up with computer chips, monitors, inverters and 9-way tailgates. Sigh.
I couldn't ever see myself driving one, and I think anybody owning one at this stage is a gizmo-addict fool. The only thing that I admire about this entire electric-car enterprise, is the sense of vision-with-commitment that Elon brings to it, as he does his space program. I believe the concept will ultimately fail, but that advancements in battery technology might - might make hybrids a viable competitor in certain situations - if the maintenance & upkeep costs don't drive them into extinction.
DeleteNot for me.
There are at least 2 of those up here in Interior Alaska (perhaps for testing?) that I’ve seen. It was -30 yesterday morning. Be interesting to see how they do. Considering it’s 360 or 400 miles or so to the nearest city of any size, depending on which of the 2 routes you choose, and there is zero charging ability in between, why would anyone buy one if these? The one way trip takes 6 hrs at best on a summer day; it’s taken me 12 in spring & fall when the weather gets snowy. Are you willing to trust that battery ?
ReplyDeleteNo thanks, sitting around charging it would annoy me, and I still expect reduced return eventually on those recharges.
ReplyDeleteActually in a showroom on thursday. I didn't want to ask "Can it pull my 5th wheel cattle trailer"?
ReplyDeleteJerry
Everybody that is down talking this thing hasn't been paying attention to the market. Nobody buys a truck for truck reasons any more. 90% of the NEW trucks on the road today are NEVER used as trucks, in the traditional sense. With 4 doors, these gluttons on the road are haulers of multiple grossly obese people bouncing from Outback to Chili's to Applebees all day long. I've never owned a vehicle with a "TV screen" in it and probably never will, I just don't see the point and don't really care.
ReplyDelete@Elmo...Too bad we can't get Toyota Hilux pickups here in America (Tacoma is similar but more dodads for grocery getting), I'd buy one in a heartbeat (and as the Top Gear BBC boys discovered, you can't kill them).
ReplyDeleteroadandtrack.com/reviews/a45752401/toyotas-10000-future-pickup-truck-is-basic-transportation-perfection
DeleteThanks. It's beautiful in it's own ugly way, like Elon's pickup.
DeleteI bookmarked this so I can follow the progress of the 'IMV 0' in America. Should be fun.
Ford oughta be able to do a bare bones version of their Ranger. That might sell.
DeleteI found the window sticker for my 2003 Ford Ranger with a five speed, roll-up windows, radio with CD player and it's only option, A/C. My cousin bought it new for $10,000. The sticker price was $14,670. Cousin said this pickup was considered to be a 'loss leader' and that there were many sold by local Ford dealers.
DeleteAdjusted for inflation that $10,000 pickup would sell for $16,333 today. I have a feeling if Ford stated making them again they'd sell a ton of them, even at that price.
Uglier than smashed assholes.
ReplyDeleteTime will come be putting a Chevy small block and 79 K1500 all the time 4 wheel drive driveline in it. Betcha, you watch, these electric vehicles will be a dime a dozen when the battery pack shits the bed cause only a few will afford 20-30 grand for a new battery set.
ReplyDeleteIts a really cool truck for a specific reason, its made out of 304L Stainless Steel, never rust out. Put a conventional driveline in ine and its a truck they can bury you in last so long, or hand it down to your son or daughter. Thats the way shit should be. Not this built in failure crap they been conning everyone into buying the last 40-50 years. Screw that. Time to change shit up. Be poetic justice too, if you ask me.