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Friday, December 29, 2023
The pilot passed out! You have to take the controls and land this thing!
Considering that you only need to focus on three or four things in the entire cockpit to get it safely on the ground, the hardest part would be to maintain your wits about you.
No sweat if it's CAT III equipped, the airplane will land itself. The first thing to do is make sure the autopilot is engaged (DO NOT press the red button on the control yoke!), second put on the headset, tune COMM1 to 121.5, select COMM1 on your audio panel, press the PTT switch (it will be on the yoke) and scream for help. After that it's just a matter of following instructions. Hopefully you have lots of fuel because class ends with a final exam when it runs out. Al_in_Ottawa
Instead of screaming, just say, "mayday, mayday, mayday" Then read the N number off the plate on the instrument panel. The wheels start rolling pretty quickly when that happens. Remember, PTT means push-THEN-talk. Don't forget to release the PTT when you are done talking. And don't swallow the mic, speak across it. You want the recordings on the internet to be clear so we can judge your landing appropriately.
Don't give me a P-38 with props that counter-rotate It will turn, roll and spin and soon auger in don't give me a P-38
Mmmyeah, my experience in the C-130 is a bit more current than yours (1987, in E and H models), but not by much. This looks like a C130 to me too. Four engines, all steam gauges, and the lack of anything resembling glass tells me that it is probably an E. I hesitate here because I'm not seeing Condition Levers. What almost makes me certain that it's a C-130 is the flip book of speeds right in front of the throttle quadrant....those I remember.
I flew G and Q (EW) models in mid ‘70s. Ours had way more engine instruments…like 4 columns of 8 or more. Power was rated in inch-pounds of torque. Strange. Max torque was 19,600 in-lb. If it’s a Herc, it has to be a new model with more systems automation. I’m thinking not a Herc.
Bill, I think that you may have me convinced, and I'll have to recant my guess that this is a C-130. Here is the instrument panel of an H model.... https://live.staticflickr.com/2625/4187333874_9cb7cae028_b.jpg
This picture shows the engine gauges right up under the glareshield. The E and H models that I flew had the SKE (Station Keeping Equipment*) panel mounted above the glareshield as shown here. Also above the glareshield, but above this image, is the SKE scope (which was removable and we only flew with it installed when on SKE missions). The box on the right side of the glareshield isn't familiar to me.
Perhaps a P-3 or maybe a C-17? Dunno anything about those.
* Station Keeping Equipment was an old-school system used to fly formations of planes in the weather without any of them being able to see the others. The idea was to put a bunch of cargo airplanes over a drop zone, in the weather, and have each of them drop their loads on the DZ. At the time it was a reasonable system to use, but it was easily detectable and today it would only lead to planes getting shot down.
Put me in coach
ReplyDeleteAny parachutes?
ReplyDeleteOtherwise, get the tower on the radio and have Mark Walhberg play me in the movie.
not a prob
ReplyDeleteNo sweat. They might even get to use the jet again.
ReplyDeleteConsidering that you only need to focus on three or four things in the entire cockpit to get it safely on the ground, the hardest part would be to maintain your wits about you.
DeleteI just want to say, Good luck. We're all counting on you.
ReplyDeleteAnd stop calling me Shirley…
DeleteLeave it alone and it will land itself. TR and autobrakes.
ReplyDeleteSteam Gauges!
ReplyDeleteAlways and forever!
DeleteMy worst recurring nightmare...
ReplyDelete“Ladies and gentlemen, this is your substitute pilot advising you to get right with Jesus because I think we’re all about to meet Him.”
ReplyDelete👆🏻
DeleteShort Final - You got one shot, don't blow it rookie
ReplyDeleteNo sweat if it's CAT III equipped, the airplane will land itself. The first thing to do is make sure the autopilot is engaged (DO NOT press the red button on the control yoke!), second put on the headset, tune COMM1 to 121.5, select COMM1 on your audio panel, press the PTT switch (it will be on the yoke) and scream for help. After that it's just a matter of following instructions. Hopefully you have lots of fuel because class ends with a final exam when it runs out.
ReplyDeleteAl_in_Ottawa
Instead of screaming, just say, "mayday, mayday, mayday" Then read the N number off the plate on the instrument panel. The wheels start rolling pretty quickly when that happens. Remember, PTT means push-THEN-talk. Don't forget to release the PTT when you are done talking. And don't swallow the mic, speak across it. You want the recordings on the internet to be clear so we can judge your landing appropriately.
DeleteDon't give me a P-38
with props that counter-rotate
It will turn, roll and spin
and soon auger in
don't give me a P-38
P38 can opener?
DeletePiece of cake if you do it IKEA way: after landing assembly required (so will probably you)...
ReplyDeleteBeen a loooong time since I was in the cockpit of a C-130... It was 1980 ...
ReplyDeleteMmmyeah, my experience in the C-130 is a bit more current than yours (1987, in E and H models), but not by much. This looks like a C130 to me too. Four engines, all steam gauges, and the lack of anything resembling glass tells me that it is probably an E. I hesitate here because I'm not seeing Condition Levers. What almost makes me certain that it's a C-130 is the flip book of speeds right in front of the throttle quadrant....those I remember.
Deleteazlibertarian
I would have no problem flying that thing all the way to the scene of the crash.
ReplyDeleteLanding a plane is easy; they've never left one up in the air one single time.
ReplyDeleteI assure you, it's coming down. Every. Single. Time.
The tricky part is right-side up, on a runway, in a condition everyone gets to walk away from.
Otherwise, anyone could do it.
I flew G and Q (EW) models in mid ‘70s. Ours had way more engine instruments…like 4 columns of 8 or more. Power was rated in inch-pounds of torque. Strange. Max torque was 19,600 in-lb.
ReplyDeleteIf it’s a Herc, it has to be a new model with more systems automation. I’m thinking not a Herc.
Bill, I think that you may have me convinced, and I'll have to recant my guess that this is a C-130. Here is the instrument panel of an H model....
Deletehttps://live.staticflickr.com/2625/4187333874_9cb7cae028_b.jpg
This picture shows the engine gauges right up under the glareshield. The E and H models that I flew had the SKE (Station Keeping Equipment*) panel mounted above the glareshield as shown here. Also above the glareshield, but above this image, is the SKE scope (which was removable and we only flew with it installed when on SKE missions). The box on the right side of the glareshield isn't familiar to me.
Perhaps a P-3 or maybe a C-17? Dunno anything about those.
* Station Keeping Equipment was an old-school system used to fly formations of planes in the weather without any of them being able to see the others. The idea was to put a bunch of cargo airplanes over a drop zone, in the weather, and have each of them drop their loads on the DZ. At the time it was a reasonable system to use, but it was easily detectable and today it would only lead to planes getting shot down.
azlibertarian
We're all gonna die!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI driven every kinna rig that's ever been made.
ReplyDeleteI even drove the back roads so I wouldn't get weighed.
But I ain't willin to try that beast.
I kin do it.
ReplyDeleteYou'll probably even get to use the airplane again afterwards.
Piloting is piloting, really.
Guys, did the Herks you flew have a window post right in the center of the cockpit?
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