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Tuesday, December 24, 2024
As much brass as I have laying around, I should probably consider this
That sucks compared to the Franklin Arsenal large tumbler. A 1 hour run with a small amount of dawn, citric acid and the steel pins and you have the cleanest brass you'll ever get
Don't forget some Lemi Shine. * The problem with sonic cleaners is that they do not have much of a capacity but they do clean well. I have one but rarely use it. I rely on a Lyman Turbo 1200 PRO Tumbler where I can easily process 500 cases in 3 hours. One hour with walnut shell to clean and 2 hours with corn cob media and a tablespoon of liquid car wax will get the cases clean and shiny.
I have used both a professional ultrasonic cleaner and the pin tumbler and have found that the ultrasonic cleaner does, indeed, suck compared to the outcomes achieved with the FA pin tumbler. No pissing on the post, as pissing on a post would start with something personal and directly insulting "Wow, what a shit product you have recommended" and much worse. Cutting to the chase by stating my opinion that a product sucks is just that. Internet opinion, From someone who has experience and does use both types of machines. Citric acid is the generic for Lemi-Shine brand. The ultrasonic cleaner is good for small firearms parts, and other small components. Fired brass does much better with stainless media in a tumbler, decap, sort, tumble, pour water and pins into 5 gallon bucket, empty brass onto a large towel, turn on fan to speed drying. pour off wash water, pour pins back into tumbler for next round. I have processed hundreds of pounds of brass this way, with great results.
An exceedingly good F-Class shooter I know, and if you know anything about F-ers, you know how psychotic they are about their loads, did extensive testing of stainless pin wet tumbling methods against the old dry tumbling methods and concluded (a) the old dry tumbling method was a lot less hassle overall and (b) there was no measurable difference in the accuracy of his loads at one thousand yards. It was his judgement based on his data that if something was more work but doesn't help, there's no point to doing it, so he dry tumbles only these days. Your mileage, of course, may vary, so by all means continue to wet tumble if that seems best to you.
I have a FA wet tumbler and it does an excellent job but it is a lot more work than a traditional dry tumbler for the same result Jim from down the bayou
These type of cleaners (especially the heated ones) are great for cleaning steel gun parts also. Never use them on aluminum though as they can induce microscopic fractures.
That sucks compared to the Franklin Arsenal large tumbler. A 1 hour run with a small amount of dawn, citric acid and the steel pins and you have the cleanest brass you'll ever get
ReplyDeleteDoes it "suck," Gromit? You an expert on this? Do you enjoy pissing on CW's posts?
DeleteDon't forget some Lemi Shine.
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The problem with sonic cleaners is that they do not have much of a capacity but they do clean well. I have one but rarely use it. I rely on a Lyman Turbo 1200 PRO Tumbler where I can easily process 500 cases in 3 hours. One hour with walnut shell to clean and 2 hours with corn cob media and a tablespoon of liquid car wax will get the cases clean and shiny.
Gromit is right, but I'd use crushed corn cobs or walnut shells.
DeleteSteel pins on brass? I shudder to think....
Harbor Freight is less money, works good.
ReplyDeleteI have used both a professional ultrasonic cleaner and the pin tumbler and have found that the ultrasonic cleaner does, indeed, suck compared to the outcomes achieved with the FA pin tumbler. No pissing on the post, as pissing on a post would start with something personal and directly insulting "Wow, what a shit product you have recommended" and much worse. Cutting to the chase by stating my opinion that a product sucks is just that. Internet opinion, From someone who has experience and does use both types of machines. Citric acid is the generic for Lemi-Shine brand. The ultrasonic cleaner is good for small firearms parts, and other small components. Fired brass does much better with stainless media in a tumbler, decap, sort, tumble, pour water and pins into 5 gallon bucket, empty brass onto a large towel, turn on fan to speed drying. pour off wash water, pour pins back into tumbler for next round. I have processed hundreds of pounds of brass this way, with great results.
ReplyDeleteSuck it annonymouse - your mom said Hi.
Merry Christmas and God Bless all here.
ReplyDeleteAn exceedingly good F-Class shooter I know, and if you know anything about F-ers, you know how psychotic they are about their loads, did extensive testing of stainless pin wet tumbling methods against the old dry tumbling methods and concluded (a) the old dry tumbling method was a lot less hassle overall and (b) there was no measurable difference in the accuracy of his loads at one thousand yards. It was his judgement based on his data that if something was more work but doesn't help, there's no point to doing it, so he dry tumbles only these days. Your mileage, of course, may vary, so by all means continue to wet tumble if that seems best to you.
I have a FA wet tumbler and it does an excellent job but it is a lot more work than a traditional dry tumbler for the same result
ReplyDeleteJim from down the bayou
Used to reload 50 rounds a a day of 9mm, and still couldn't keep up with myself. Those were good times.
ReplyDeleteThese type of cleaners (especially the heated ones) are great for cleaning steel gun parts also. Never use them on aluminum though as they can induce microscopic fractures.
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