And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Saturday, July 30, 2022
Aftermath of a USAAF B-25 bomber crashing into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building, 1945
Bet ya a dollar the prop job bomber wasn't doing in excess of 400 MPH nor carrying a thousand plus gallons of jet-A either.... But hey, troofer, don't let reality get in the way of your derp.
None of the aircraft "disappeared," and in fact large parts were recovered. In the Pentagon and around the Towers, not to mention in Pennsylvania. Bodies still strapped into their seats were recovered at the Pentagon. Bits and pieces of the aircraft were laying about inside and around the Pentagon, a much easier debris field to investigate than the Towers. Having trained mechanics to maintain Boeing 767 and 757 aircraft I can attest that the parts lying about in the debris field were from a Boeing 757 aircraft. Liars and deceivers have duped people from the moment all this happened. Some for profit, some for notoriety, all for despicable reasons. Fahrenheit 911 is a great example, fully debunked within weeks of its grotesque advent. That is what I have to say about that.
👍👍 There are those so wrapped up in 'there has to be more to this' that they cannot accept reasoned explaination. And arguing with such is fruitless and a waste of one's time and energy.
In reply to Dogbone88: Actually Dog, one small hole. About 16 feet in diameter with no injury to the walls where the wings would have gouged enormous entryways each side of the fuselage. That jet aircraft never could have made such a tiny impact. It was a missile fired from a ship in the Potomac straight due east. Take a look at a map. They still pay people like Rickvid to utter such crap.
The Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot is a system designed to take control of a commercial aircraft away from the pilot or flight crew in the event of a hijacking. If implemented, the system would allow the craft to automatically guide itself to a landing at a designated airstrip.[1] The "uninterruptible" autopilot would be activated either by pilots, by onboard sensors, or remotely via radio or satellite links by government agencies, if terrorists attempt to gain control of a flight deck.[1] Both Boeing and Honeywell have contributed significantly to the introduction of digital autopilot technology into the civil aviation sector.[2] A patent for the system was awarded to Boeing in 2006.[3] Honeywell has also been developing a system with Airbus, and a prototype has been tested on small aircraft.[4] Conspiracy theorists have claimed that the technology has been secretly fitted to some commercial airliners. Some, including historian Norman Davies, have blamed it for the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the cause of which is unknown as of January 2022.[5][6][7][8][9][10] According to Bob Mann, an airline industry consultant, evidence of the Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot system being installed in a commercial airline has not been publicized and is not proven to exist.[11] Safety concerns, including the possibility that such a system could be hacked, have prevented its roll-out.[12]
Not jet fuel, gasoline was used to power that plane. Plus, the building is built differently than the ones that fell down. Plus, it was gong only about 200 mph or less because it was foggy at that time of day, and the weight was not as great as the jet liners that crashed into the buildings. Plus, it was NOT done on purpose as the two other planes were.
You know, if Roosevelt hadn't embargoed oil exports to Japan we might have avoided Pearl Harbor, WWII, and the proliferation of B-25s that led to this tragedy. Kissinger wouldn't have immigrated to become SecState, create the petro-dollar, and fund the Saudi hijackers flight training causing 9/11.
“ In 1979 the NSA released 2,413 JN-25 orders of the 26,581 intercepted by US between Sept 1 and Dec 4, 1941. The NSA says "We know now that they contained important details concerning the existence, organization, objective, and even the whereabouts of the Pearl Harbor Strike Force." (Parker p 21) Of the over thousand radio messages sent by Tokyo to the attack fleet, only 20 are in the National Archives. All messages to the attack fleet were sent several times, at least one message was sent every odd hour of the day and each had a special serial number. Starting in early November 1941 when the attack fleet assembled and started receiving radio messages, OP-20-G stayed open 24 hours a day and the "First Team" of codebreakers worked on JN-25. In November and early December 1941, OP-20-G spent 85 percent of its effort reading Japanese Navy traffic, 12 percent on Japanese diplomatic traffic and 3 percent on German naval codes. FDR was personally briefed twice a day on JN-25 traffic by his aide, Captain John Beardell, and demanded to see the original raw messages in English. The US Government refuses to identify or declassify any pre-Dec 7, 1941 decrypts of JN-25 on the basis of national security, a half-century after the war.
24 September 1941, the " bomb plot" message in J-19 code from Japan Naval Intelligence to Japan' s consul general in Honolulu requesting grid of exact locations of ships pinpointed for the benefit of bombardiers and torpedo pilots was deciphered. There was no reason to know the EXACT location of ships in harbor, unless to attack them - it was a dead giveaway. Chief of War Plans Turner and Chief of Naval Operations Stark repeatedly kept it and warnings based on it prepared by Safford and others from being passed to Hawaii. The chief of Naval Intelligence Captain Kirk was replaced because he insisted on warning HI. It was lack of information like this that lead to the exoneration of the Hawaii commanders and the blaming of Washington for unpreparedness for the attack by the Army Board and Navy Court. At no time did the Japanese ever ask for a similar bomb plot for any other American military installation. Why the Roosevelt administration allowed flagrant Japanese spying on PH has never been explained, but they blocked 2 Congressional investigations in the fall of 1941 to allow it to continue. The bomb plots were addressed to "Chief of 3rd Bureau, Naval General Staff", marked Secret Intelligence message, and given special serial numbers, so their significance couldn't be missed. There were about 95 ships in port”
And the bomber did not disappear into the building, and then the building did not collapse into its own foot print..... odd.
ReplyDeleteNot enough jet fuel....
DeleteYou really do not understand F=MA
DeleteA B-25 is around 25,000 pounds, a 767 is around 300,000 pounds...
DeleteMath is not your game, Ike.
DeleteI know: let's have a spelling bee.
Thousands of eyewitnesses on the ground in NYC saw the jets hit WTC.
DeleteBet ya a dollar the prop job bomber wasn't doing in excess of 400 MPH nor carrying a thousand plus gallons of jet-A either.... But hey, troofer, don't let reality get in the way of your derp.
DeleteNone of the aircraft "disappeared," and in fact large parts were recovered. In the Pentagon and around the Towers, not to mention in Pennsylvania. Bodies still strapped into their seats were recovered at the Pentagon. Bits and pieces of the aircraft were laying about inside and around the Pentagon, a much easier debris field to investigate than the Towers. Having trained mechanics to maintain Boeing 767 and 757 aircraft I can attest that the parts lying about in the debris field were from a Boeing 757 aircraft. Liars and deceivers have duped people from the moment all this happened. Some for profit, some for notoriety, all for despicable reasons. Fahrenheit 911 is a great example, fully debunked within weeks of its grotesque advent. That is what I have to say about that.
ReplyDeleteShow pictures of the Pentagon aftermath.
DeleteYou can not.
One large hole, where they kept and lost billions, doesn't cut it.
Rickvid sed: "Liars and deceivers have duped people..."
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And as shown, they continue to try (unsuccessfully) duping.
LOL
👍👍 There are those so wrapped up in 'there has to be more to this' that they cannot accept reasoned explaination. And arguing with such is fruitless and a waste of one's time and energy.
DeleteIn reply to Dogbone88: Actually Dog, one small hole. About 16 feet in diameter with no injury to the walls where the wings would have gouged enormous entryways each side of the fuselage. That jet aircraft never could have made such a tiny impact. It was a missile fired from a ship in the Potomac straight due east. Take a look at a map. They still pay people like Rickvid to utter such crap.
DeleteThe Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot is a system designed to take control of a commercial aircraft away from the pilot or flight crew in the event of a hijacking.
DeleteIf implemented, the system would allow the craft to automatically guide itself to a landing at a designated airstrip.[1] The "uninterruptible" autopilot would be activated either by pilots, by onboard sensors, or remotely via radio or satellite links by government agencies, if terrorists attempt to gain control of a flight deck.[1]
Both Boeing and Honeywell have contributed significantly to the introduction of digital autopilot technology into the civil aviation sector.[2] A patent for the system was awarded to Boeing in 2006.[3] Honeywell has also been developing a system with Airbus, and a prototype has been tested on small aircraft.[4]
Conspiracy theorists have claimed that the technology has been secretly fitted to some commercial airliners. Some, including historian Norman Davies, have blamed it for the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the cause of which is unknown as of January 2022.[5][6][7][8][9][10] According to Bob Mann, an airline industry consultant, evidence of the Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot system being installed in a commercial airline has not been publicized and is not proven to exist.[11] Safety concerns, including the possibility that such a system could be hacked, have prevented its roll-out.[12]
I was there. Dogbone and Hyland are full of shit.
DeleteWell said, Rickvid!
ReplyDeleteThis is a fascinating story and well worth the time to look it up.
ReplyDeleteNot jet fuel, gasoline was used to power that plane. Plus, the building is built differently than the ones that fell down. Plus, it was gong only about 200 mph or less because it was foggy at that time of day, and the weight was not as great as the jet liners that crashed into the buildings. Plus, it was NOT done on purpose as the two other planes were.
ReplyDelete👍👍
DeleteNanothermite.
ReplyDeleteFortunately, King Kong was not injured by the "hit". He was with Fay Wray that night in a Motel-6 in Jersey City, NJ.
ReplyDeleteOh, great. Yet another conspiracy theory to research.
DeleteYou know, if Roosevelt hadn't embargoed oil exports to Japan we might have avoided Pearl Harbor, WWII, and the proliferation of B-25s that led to this tragedy. Kissinger wouldn't have immigrated to become SecState, create the petro-dollar, and fund the Saudi hijackers flight training causing 9/11.
ReplyDeleteHe had it all planned.
FDR was going to get us into the war at any cost or reason.
Delete“ In 1979 the NSA released 2,413 JN-25 orders of the 26,581 intercepted by US between Sept 1 and Dec 4, 1941. The NSA says "We know now that they contained important details concerning the existence, organization, objective, and even the whereabouts of the Pearl Harbor Strike Force." (Parker p 21) Of the over thousand radio messages sent by Tokyo to the attack fleet, only 20 are in the National Archives. All messages to the attack fleet were sent several times, at least one message was sent every odd hour of the day and each had a special serial number. Starting in early November 1941 when the attack fleet assembled and started receiving radio messages, OP-20-G stayed open 24 hours a day and the "First Team" of codebreakers worked on JN-25. In November and early December 1941, OP-20-G spent 85 percent of its effort reading Japanese Navy traffic, 12 percent on Japanese diplomatic traffic and 3 percent on German naval codes. FDR was personally briefed twice a day on JN-25 traffic by his aide, Captain John Beardell, and demanded to see the original raw messages in English. The US Government refuses to identify or declassify any pre-Dec 7, 1941 decrypts of JN-25 on the basis of national security, a half-century after the war.
Delete24 September 1941, the " bomb plot" message in J-19 code from Japan Naval Intelligence to Japan' s consul general in Honolulu requesting grid of exact locations of ships pinpointed for the benefit of bombardiers and torpedo pilots was deciphered. There was no reason to know the EXACT location of ships in harbor, unless to attack them - it was a dead giveaway. Chief of War Plans Turner and Chief of Naval Operations Stark repeatedly kept it and warnings based on it prepared by Safford and others from being passed to Hawaii. The chief of Naval Intelligence Captain Kirk was replaced because he insisted on warning HI. It was lack of information like this that lead to the exoneration of the Hawaii commanders and the blaming of Washington for unpreparedness for the attack by the Army Board and Navy Court. At no time did the Japanese ever ask for a similar bomb plot for any other American military installation. Why the Roosevelt administration allowed flagrant Japanese spying on PH has never been explained, but they blocked 2 Congressional investigations in the fall of 1941 to allow it to continue. The bomb plots were addressed to "Chief of 3rd Bureau, Naval General Staff", marked Secret Intelligence message, and given special serial numbers, so their significance couldn't be missed. There were about 95 ships in port”