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Sunday, March 3, 2024
Russian armor has really taken a beating in the Ukraine, especially from cheap drones. So much so that one wonders what place a tank has on the modern battlefield.
They sure look like T55's, see how the turret ring outside diameter is right at the inside of the track spacing and centered longitudinally. 110mm main gun. They have the later add on appliqué turret armor glacis pieces. Got to be careful with SPO photography and video, the ukronazis are wildly notorious for constantly portraying their own battle losses as Russian ones in their war propaganda and agitprop, or outright making things up. Of course clown world media does a bang up job with fact checking to be sure. Russian's gave the Donbas Arc militia's hundreds of T65's from mothballed reserves, (between the run up to pre referendum to pre induction into Rus Federation military), because they mostly used to fight back from the main line of battle and mostly for security in towns or certain crossroads, though they much like the T65's for their reliability and ease on repair/maintenance. Quick handling great in mud and relatively quick reverse gear. The ukronazis on the other-hand have had to resort to T55's from donor states and even T34's due to their staggering armor losses.
Yeah, obviously Russia is marching from triumph to triumph, on Day 735 of a 3-day war, and Week 105 of "Two Weeks To Flatten Kiev". Any Day Now™ agitprop cuts both ways.
Aesop - what part of "attrition" confuses you? What part of "Russia is now administering formerly Ukrainian provinces" confuses you? What part of "Russia has lost 300,000 men, Ukraine has lost 1,200,000" confuses you? What part of "Russia is fighting the combined arms of all of NATO with only 20% of their military" confuses you?
Oh, there's attrition going on all right. Both ways.
Cite the source for your casualty figures, for either side. Prepare for laughter.
Russia is fighting NATO's cast-offs and hand-me downs, and only has 20% of their own army left. After three or four full mobilization recruitment drives.
Call me when Vlad's in Kiev. Until then, they're shooting themselves in the feet, and then reloading.
We haven't seen this kind of "winning" since Charlie Sheen cancelled his career.
That is well done photography there, but it's nothing in comparison to Bradley Square Ukraine. 16 western tanks and IFV's. One of the tanks still had the engine idling when the russians made video.
While it is true that the cost of the air defense missile outweighs the cost of the attacking drone, you also need to account for the damage not incurred should the drone hit it's target.
It is my understanding that most Russian tanks' design is no more advanced than it was in WW2. The metal that Russian tanks are made of is inferior to most modern tanks. And the Russian tank crews are poorly trained and many, if not most, are alcoholics.
Those look like T-72s. Not exactly cutting edge armor, but I get your point.
ReplyDeletethey will update the active measure they use for missile attack, measure counter measure
ReplyDeleteUkraine had 1000+ T72s pre war. Any left?
ReplyDeleteI understand they got in a large batch from a new supplier: Russia
DeleteThe Israelis have an anti-missile system called Trophy mounted on their tanks.
ReplyDeleteAl_in_Ottawa
They sure look like T55's, see how the turret ring outside diameter is right at the inside of the track spacing and centered longitudinally. 110mm main gun. They have the later add on appliqué turret armor glacis pieces. Got to be careful with SPO photography and video, the ukronazis are wildly notorious for constantly portraying their own battle losses as Russian ones in their war propaganda and agitprop, or outright making things up. Of course clown world media does a bang up job with fact checking to be sure.
ReplyDeleteRussian's gave the Donbas Arc militia's hundreds of T65's from mothballed reserves, (between the run up to pre referendum to pre induction into Rus Federation military), because they mostly used to fight back from the main line of battle and mostly for security in towns or certain crossroads, though they much like the T65's for their reliability and ease on repair/maintenance. Quick handling great in mud and relatively quick reverse gear. The ukronazis on the other-hand have had to resort to T55's from donor states and even T34's due to their staggering armor losses.
Yeah, obviously Russia is marching from triumph to triumph, on Day 735 of a 3-day war, and Week 105 of "Two Weeks To Flatten Kiev".
DeleteAny Day Now™ agitprop cuts both ways.
Aesop - what part of "attrition" confuses you? What part of "Russia is now administering formerly Ukrainian provinces" confuses you? What part of "Russia has lost 300,000 men, Ukraine has lost 1,200,000" confuses you? What part of "Russia is fighting the combined arms of all of NATO with only 20% of their military" confuses you?
DeleteOh, there's attrition going on all right.
DeleteBoth ways.
Cite the source for your casualty figures, for either side.
Prepare for laughter.
Russia is fighting NATO's cast-offs and hand-me downs, and only has 20% of their own army left. After three or four full mobilization recruitment drives.
Call me when Vlad's in Kiev.
Until then, they're shooting themselves in the feet, and then reloading.
We haven't seen this kind of "winning" since Charlie Sheen cancelled his career.
That is well done photography there, but it's nothing in comparison to Bradley Square Ukraine. 16 western tanks and IFV's. One of the tanks still had the engine idling when the russians made video.
ReplyDeleteIn the mean time, USN Guided Missile Destroyers in the Red Sea are shooting $2 million missiles at drones that cost a few thousand dollars.
ReplyDeleteDiversity Is Our Strength. /s
DeleteThat isn't the only math involved here.
DeleteWhile it is true that the cost of the air defense missile outweighs the cost of the attacking drone, you also need to account for the damage not incurred should the drone hit it's target.
tanks, trenches, snipers, etc are officially obsolete thanks to the recent weapons testing ( some call it a war ) made public.
ReplyDeleteFPV, lancets, disposables, FLIR, spotters- have all proved max successful & cost effective for 25 year old tech.
TOTAL air superiority is the solution.
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It is my understanding that most Russian tanks' design is no more advanced than it was in WW2. The metal that Russian tanks are made of is inferior to most modern tanks. And the Russian tank crews are poorly trained and many, if not most, are alcoholics.
ReplyDeleteThe upholstery foam inside the reactive armor blocks and flak vests came as quite a surprise too.
DeleteSoviet efficiency FTW.