And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It may be undergoing maintenance. Beaching the ship at high tide allows work to be done at low tide without the use of a drydock. This ship appears to be laid up "in ordinary". The spars and most of the rigging have been removed and stored aboard while it is idle. After the Napoleonic wars the Royal Navy had many ships in storage. Al_in_Ottawa
Some of your insights are correct, but I do not think this is a case of beach careening, which was a way to clean the bottom fouling without a drydock or marine railway. What we have here is a British ship of the line, downrigged to just the lowers, and evidently still in service, but probably being used as a receiving ship or as you said, in ordinary. Since it is in the age of photography, and Napoleonic Ships of the Line were long since obsolete after 1840, It is extremely remote that anyone in the British Government would be directing funds to maintain a ship of that age and type. Even the lighter and more adaptable frigates were not really suited to anything but training ships by the later 19th Century. When the Admiralty did repair old ships for cadet training, (look up HMS Eurydice and HMS Atalanta training ship disasters) they would have refitted them in a drydock. Hauling down on a beach like that is for much lighter craft and was something of a field expedient technique. No, I have to presume this ship is ashore by accident. It is an interesting photo at any rate and I would like to know what became of her.
Looked on Google... https://www.flickr.com/photos/55544262@N03/8995925095 "HMS Conway former ship of the Line than Training ship" https://www.pinterest.com/pin/zro-la-barre--551831760568763546/ "HMS Conway wrecked while passing through the Menai Strait known as the Swellies on April 14, 1953."
Just found that myself on an image search. Hard to believe that late date. There are many great photos of the wreck in various stages of deterioration in the search results.
There was a small end lot/surplus store on Canal St in NYC that for a spell had two four-shiv careening blocks laying on the floor. iron-bound wood and iron shivs. heavy, which explains the floor.
It may be undergoing maintenance. Beaching the ship at high tide allows work to be done at low tide without the use of a drydock. This ship appears to be laid up "in ordinary". The spars and most of the rigging have been removed and stored aboard while it is idle. After the Napoleonic wars the Royal Navy had many ships in storage.
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Some of your insights are correct, but I do not think this is a case of beach careening, which was a way to clean the bottom fouling without a drydock or marine railway. What we have here is a British ship of the line, downrigged to just the lowers, and evidently still in service, but probably being used as a receiving ship or as you said, in ordinary. Since it is in the age of photography, and Napoleonic Ships of the Line were long since obsolete after 1840, It is extremely remote that anyone in the British Government would be directing funds to maintain a ship of that age and type. Even the lighter and more adaptable frigates were not really suited to anything but training ships by the later 19th Century. When the Admiralty did repair old ships for cadet training, (look up HMS Eurydice and HMS Atalanta training ship disasters) they would have refitted them in a drydock. Hauling down on a beach like that is for much lighter craft and was something of a field expedient technique.
DeleteNo, I have to presume this ship is ashore by accident. It is an interesting photo at any rate and I would like to know what became of her.
Looks like it would make a good seafood restaurant now.
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Looked on Google...
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https://www.pinterest.com/pin/zro-la-barre--551831760568763546/ "HMS Conway wrecked while passing through the Menai Strait known as the Swellies on April 14, 1953."
Just found that myself on an image search. Hard to believe that late date. There are many great photos of the wreck in various stages of deterioration in the search results.
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ReplyDeleteThought a old 78 but a 92 gun 2nd rate.
There was a small end lot/surplus store on Canal St in NYC that for a spell had two four-shiv careening blocks laying on the floor. iron-bound wood and iron shivs. heavy, which explains the floor.
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