And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Sounds about right jerseygirlangie. Less well known than it's cousin the 190, but a reasonable match for the P-51 with a good pilot. BTW: I was a hackensackguy till I got some smarts and moved to a friendlier Southern state.
I also think it's a TA-152. If we could see the wings, we'd be much surer. Kurt Tank developed the Focke-Wulf 190. The TA-152 is a design offshoot with thin and narrow wings and a supercharged powerplant. Designed for high-altitude attacks on bombers. Probably the fastest piston-powered airplane in German service.
Tank was test flying this airplane when he was surprised by a couple P-51's. He claims he gave 100% throttle and quickly pulled away from them.
NOT A "TA-152" The TA-152 had twice the wing span and was about 6 feet longer. That is the FW190 "D" or "Dora" with a Da1mler 601 or Junkers inline and the short fuselage insert in front of the tail. It used the same wing and gun set up as the late war "A" series. The front middle and wings are all much to short to be a TA-152. That is a "Dora"---Ray P.S. I know everybody thinks the TA 152 was the name of the whole FW "Dora" program. But it was only the designation of ONE of the "D" program aircraft (the last one of more than 5) made in very small numbers VERY late in Germany's war.
read the accounts of Israeli pilots trying to herd a Bf-109 with that Junkers engine and bomber prop into combat. wow. Gen. Galland had a few choice words on the TA-152 none of which were unprintable.
I don't know how you can see the wings. My computer sure isn't displaying any. The TA-152's wing weren't twice as long as the D-type's, they were about a third longer. But the forward fuselage does look too short for the 152.
The aircraft in the photo is an FW-19 D-9. It was in most respects an FW 19 A-8 with a liquid cooled engine substituted for the BMW 801 radial. Moving the engine further forward created the need to make the aircraft longer with an insert just in front of the tail. Otherwise it kept the standard 34 foot 5 inch wing used on all "A" models. The TA-152H used the very powerful Junkers Jumo bomber engine and a highly distinctive thin tapered and square tipped, 47.5 foot wing in the prototypes changed to a 50 foot wing had it gone into full production before the war ended. At 25000 feet it was the fastest production fighter of the war (590 MPH+ in some reports) There are no flying TA 152's as of 2018. There are a few "Dora" reproductions ,and rumors of a TA 152 repo in the works---Ray
Reminds me of a Focke-Wulf Ta 152 .
ReplyDeleteSounds about right jerseygirlangie. Less well known than it's cousin the 190, but a reasonable match for the P-51 with a good pilot. BTW: I was a hackensackguy till I got some smarts and moved to a friendlier Southern state.
DeleteI also think it's a TA-152. If we could see the wings, we'd be much surer.
ReplyDeleteKurt Tank developed the Focke-Wulf 190. The TA-152 is a design offshoot with thin and narrow wings and a supercharged powerplant. Designed for high-altitude attacks on bombers. Probably the fastest piston-powered airplane in German service.
Tank was test flying this airplane when he was surprised by a couple P-51's. He claims he gave 100% throttle and quickly pulled away from them.
I name it "Fritz".
ReplyDeleteConcur, TA-152
ReplyDeleteNOT A "TA-152" The TA-152 had twice the wing span and was about 6 feet longer. That is the FW190 "D" or "Dora" with a Da1mler 601 or Junkers inline and the short fuselage insert in front of the tail. It used the same wing and gun set up as the late war "A" series. The front middle and wings are all much to short to be a TA-152. That is a "Dora"---Ray P.S. I know everybody thinks the TA 152 was the name of the whole FW "Dora" program. But it was only the designation of ONE of the "D" program aircraft (the last one of more than 5) made in very small numbers VERY late in Germany's war.
ReplyDeleteOur Bad, anon.
Deleteread the accounts of Israeli pilots trying to herd a Bf-109 with that Junkers engine and bomber prop into combat. wow. Gen. Galland had a few choice words on the TA-152 none of which were unprintable.
ReplyDelete+1 for Anon name it Dora...
ReplyDeleteI don't know how you can see the wings. My computer sure isn't displaying any.
ReplyDeleteThe TA-152's wing weren't twice as long as the D-type's, they were about a third longer.
But the forward fuselage does look too short for the 152.
I will name him George, and I will love him and pet him and squeeze him. :-)
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ReplyDeleteIt's a Sopwith Snipe. What do I win ?
ReplyDeleteThe aircraft in the photo is an FW-19 D-9. It was in most respects an FW 19 A-8 with a liquid cooled engine substituted for the BMW 801 radial. Moving the engine further forward created the need to make the aircraft longer with an insert just in front of the tail. Otherwise it kept the standard 34 foot 5 inch wing used on all "A" models. The TA-152H used the very powerful Junkers Jumo bomber engine and a highly distinctive thin tapered and square tipped, 47.5 foot wing in the prototypes changed to a 50 foot wing had it gone into full production before the war ended. At 25000 feet it was the fastest production fighter of the war (590 MPH+ in some reports) There are no flying TA 152's as of 2018. There are a few "Dora" reproductions ,and rumors of a TA 152 repo in the works---Ray
ReplyDeleteThe TA-152H also had a longer and squarer vertical stabilizer than the FW-190 D9 shown here.
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