And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
I remember that one, it was a Jazz (Air Canada subsidiary) aircraft. We got a garbled phone call that a -8 had lost a wheel and we thought it was one of our two aircraft. We did a special inspection of the two -8s we were operating as a precaution. Nothing to worry about, a Dehavilland -8 is an easy aircraft to grease onto the runway and those 14 foot props provide lots of reverse thrust in beta range Here's the full video including the landing. The landing is so smooth the camera doesn't even jiggle on touch-down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXWZsZQLucI Al_in_Ottawa
A main wheel fell off a BE 1900 after takeoff. The pilot returned for a successful landing. That delayed the flight for seven hours. Why?
Because the commuter airline did not have an A&P at that airport. They said it would be at least one day before they could. Meanwhile, an A&P was at that airport. He worked for a different company. In fact, that employment was moonlighting from his regular job.
His regular job was chief A&P for a legacy airline. Though he could have returned the BE 1900 to airworthiness within an hour or two, the 1900 operator forbid him.
What they did do was to fly him to a larger airport to receive training for how to repair a wheel on a 1900. That airport was in fact where he worked for his regular job. He worked it so he received the training in the very maintenance hanger of his regular employment. It was a good chunk of change he received for that little excursion.
Now back to the airport where the wheel fell off, our man completed the necessary work in an hour or two. All that was necessary was to fit a new tire to the undamaged wheel then to mount that to the aircraft with new bolts. Those items were on hand (in stock) at the airport.
Never forget, the aircraft is not airworthy until the weight of the paperwork meets or exceeds the weight of the aircraft.
I once had a mechanic find a hydraulic leak in the wing of the 777 I was due to fly out of Paris. It took him quite a while to find the leaking part, but once he'd ID'd it, you would think that finding the replacement part would be a snap. I mean, it's not like Paris isn't a giant international hub for every international airline on the planet. Find the part from whoever has it, pay what they're asking, and then be on the way.
But no. Such agreements, like your example of agreements between companies on who can perform the maintence, are agreed-to in advance, and once these contracts are in place, they're not going to be worked-around, even if common sense might say otherwise.
In my case, they found the part in Los Angeles, and had it flown to us in Paris, where the mechanic was then able to install it. Overall delay: 2 days.
It makes less sense because the 1900 operator had a maintenance contract with that legacy airline I had mentioned.
I don't recall exactly why our man had to receive the training. He already was familiar with the 1900. I suspect some manager decided better to have current training on record.
As a working pilot, I know of the inane nonsense emulating from the FAA. But this stuff does get out of hand.
With all the aircraft problems with airlines what is not being mentioned is the Air Traffic Controller problems at airports that are increasing. I am not flying but driving as it is safer.
Watched an F-15 loose it's wheel on takeoff down in Tyndall AFB. Luckily he had external tanks to prop up the side when he "bellied" it in. Lots of sparks and a nasty gash in the runway but he kept it straight.
In the last second of the film, is the inner panel cut up - disassembled?
ReplyDeleteThe next landing will be interesting and sporty.
ReplyDeleteI remember that one, it was a Jazz (Air Canada subsidiary) aircraft. We got a garbled phone call that a -8 had lost a wheel and we thought it was one of our two aircraft. We did a special inspection of the two -8s we were operating as a precaution.
ReplyDeleteNothing to worry about, a Dehavilland -8 is an easy aircraft to grease onto the runway and those 14 foot props provide lots of reverse thrust in beta range
Here's the full video including the landing. The landing is so smooth the camera doesn't even jiggle on touch-down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXWZsZQLucI
Al_in_Ottawa
I’d fly in a DeHavilland or Bombardier over a Boeing, any day.
DeleteA main wheel fell off a BE 1900 after takeoff. The pilot returned for a successful landing. That delayed the flight for seven hours. Why?
ReplyDeleteBecause the commuter airline did not have an A&P at that airport. They said it would be at least one day before they could.
Meanwhile, an A&P was at that airport. He worked for a different company. In fact, that employment was moonlighting from his regular job.
His regular job was chief A&P for a legacy airline. Though he could have returned the BE 1900 to airworthiness within an hour or two, the 1900 operator forbid him.
What they did do was to fly him to a larger airport to receive training for how to repair a wheel on a 1900. That airport was in fact where he worked for his regular job. He worked it so he received the training in the very maintenance hanger of his regular employment. It was a good chunk of change he received for that little excursion.
Now back to the airport where the wheel fell off, our man completed the necessary work in an hour or two.
All that was necessary was to fit a new tire to the undamaged wheel then to mount that to the aircraft with new bolts. Those items were on hand (in stock) at the airport.
Never forget, the aircraft is not airworthy until the weight of the paperwork meets or exceeds the weight of the aircraft.
Retired airline pilot here....
DeleteI once had a mechanic find a hydraulic leak in the wing of the 777 I was due to fly out of Paris. It took him quite a while to find the leaking part, but once he'd ID'd it, you would think that finding the replacement part would be a snap. I mean, it's not like Paris isn't a giant international hub for every international airline on the planet. Find the part from whoever has it, pay what they're asking, and then be on the way.
But no. Such agreements, like your example of agreements between companies on who can perform the maintence, are agreed-to in advance, and once these contracts are in place, they're not going to be worked-around, even if common sense might say otherwise.
In my case, they found the part in Los Angeles, and had it flown to us in Paris, where the mechanic was then able to install it. Overall delay: 2 days.
It makes sense on a spreadsheet. Somehow.
azlibertarian
RE: the BE 1900
DeleteIt makes less sense because the 1900 operator had a maintenance contract with that legacy airline I had mentioned.
I don't recall exactly why our man had to receive the training. He already was familiar with the 1900. I suspect some manager decided better to have current training on record.
As a working pilot, I know of the inane nonsense emulating from the FAA. But this stuff does get out of hand.
The term AOG is supposed to pull people out of their beds at night and back from vacation to get the job done as quickly as possible, right?
DeleteWith all the aircraft problems with airlines what is not being mentioned is the Air Traffic Controller problems at airports that are increasing. I am not flying but driving as it is safer.
ReplyDelete"You picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel..."
ReplyDeleteGood one, SiG.
DeleteBoeing???
ReplyDeleteWatched an F-15 loose it's wheel on takeoff down in Tyndall AFB. Luckily he had external tanks to prop up the side when he "bellied" it in. Lots of sparks and a nasty gash in the runway but he kept it straight.
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