Wednesday, November 23, 2022

Belle of Maryland of the 94th Bomb Group after sustaining flak damage over Braunschweig, 1 November 1944

 


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  1. A friend’s father flew with the Mighty 8th. He’s a three war veteran and at 101 still going strong.

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    1. Bless him! I hope stories and history of his experiences have been recorded.
      Send along my best, please.

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    2. Dan, his story has been extensively recorded by various organizations and his son, a professional historian, has put together a large archive of recordings and documents for family history.

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  2. It brought them back and unless it was their last mission, they had to get in another plane and do it again.

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  3. what crew occupied that area, if any ?

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    1. this diagram might be useful.
      It does not show the area needed to house the giant brass balls of the men who crewed these ships.

      https://www.joshuanava.biz/aircraft/images/1856_77_64-boeing-b17-bomber.jpg

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    2. That is a cool drawing, thanks for sharing it

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    3. Thx. I had framed Wylam plans on my bedroom walls when a boy.

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  4. Those widows just aft of the damage is the cockpit occupied bt the pilot and co-pilot.

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  5. That would make for a VERY cold return trip....

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  6. bottom of the picture shows a date of 1-14-44.

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  7. I hope they renamed her Lucky Belle.

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  8. More men were KIA/WIA in the Mighty Eighth than in all of the USMC campaigns in the Pacific Theater.

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    1. To less effect. Maybe if they'd concentrated on Mustangs before B-17s and B-24s...

      Economy of force is still a thing in military tactics.

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  9. a good read is "Masters of the Air"/Mitchell

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    1. Absolutely agree, read it years ago and passed it on to a man in Florida who lived in a neighboring RV park. He flew in B 17's in the 8th out of England. He was shot down over Belgium, evaded capture with the help of a Belgium priest, returned to England and went right back to flying missions. Incredibly brave men.

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  10. My Dad was a B-17 air frame mechanic stationed in Australia and New Guinea. His company departed for Australia on Dec 9, 1941 aboard a troop ship. Didn't return home until spring 1946.

    One of my uncles was shot down in a B-17 over Germany in 1944. He was a waist gunner. He spent the rest of the war as a guest of the Luftwaffe.

    Nemo

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    1. air POW's taught and received college courses&credits.

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  11. That would be why a lot of pilots used to say, "if it ain't Boeing, I'm not going"

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  12. As far as the American Air Museum in Britain reports, Flak was NOT involved in ruining this mighty bird:

    Delivered Cheyenne 16/10/43; Gr Island 28/10/43; Memphis 1/11/43; Assigned 410BS/94BG Rougham 11/11/43; while parked 12/1/44, three ground crew were working, T/Sgt Roland Grout, Sgt John Leasie & Cpl Jim Moroney, when an explosion occurred behind cockpit controls which set up a blaze, eventually extinguished (3 Returned to Duty); Salvaged 6/10/44, eventually parts used to get the equally damaged FRENESI back into operations; BELLE OF MARYLAND.

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    https://www.americanairmuseum.com/archive/aircraft/42-31289

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    1. OTOH, the same source supports the battle damage explanation.
      https://www.americanairmuseum.com/archive/media/media-408512jpg

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