And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Bulk head won't stop a coil once it gets moving. You got to chain them right, and start them in a cradle of 4x4's. Minimum two chains to the back ,one to the front . I used to see idiots tie down rolls with straps. CHP would shut them down , fines about $150 per chain required and not used.
We process those rolls where I work, we have them stacked up in rows four high and ten long in the warehouse and there is a huge machine that unwinds them , flattens them into plate and then cuts them to length. Those rolls weigh up to 50,000 lbs each and I was ten feet away when one of the chocks that hold the stacks up let go and three rolls took off across the floor. The whole warehouse shook when the one on top hit the ground. I didn't see that one hit because at that point I was already beating feet the other way. Phil@Bustednuckles.com
I was a overhead crane operator (up in the crane). I also watched steel coils get loose and roll through the building. A bulkhead on that trailer would have saved him.
That's why they call this, rolling front to back, suicide. Or load it so if it comes loose and rolls down the road it unwinds. There are reasons why nobody wants to haul this stuff.
In a way, it's just laziness. A proper transport would have a trailer bed molded with notches for these to nest securely without danger of shifting. It's too great a danger, with this much weight, to leave it to the judgment of a driver.
Nope! There is a reel rack that is laid out on the flatbed. It is basically a 2" angle iron welded together with a 1.5" angle iron to cradle the reel. A reel of power line is 9, 500 pounds. I use 3 chains on one of those. One pulling strait down, one pulling forward, and one pulling to the rear with all going through the center hole. They are usually very profitable runs.
Reels need to be hauled on drop frame trailers or Hot Shot goosenecks. Dock height flatbeds are the least desirable to haul reels.
When I was in 6th grade, about 12 years old, one of my classmates father that worked for GM had this happen. Killed him, picture made the front page of the Detroit News. Avoidable tragedy.
This is why I had no desire to pull flatbed. That, and the stories you hear about "this load must be tarped" only to have the receiver unload and place "protected cargo" in the dirt, mud, water, whatever.
Some guys are real good at tarping their loads, nice tight, no flapping in the breeze. Other loads look like a big balloon going down the road.
Yes, and the second verse is, after the whatever sits in the muck for six months and the paint fails, they will come back at the manufacturer for faulty paint.
I worked as a heavy mechanic in a rolling mill for a while, outside of the Bay Area. The average roll weight produced was between 25 and 30 tons. And yes, the floor does shake when the overhead crane magnet drops a scrap coil in front of you. Kindly secure your loads, folks...
Only guy I know that hauls coils uses 5 or 6 chains on each coil, he always uses double what should be used.
my neighbor drives flatbed and always hauls oversize and overweight cargo. he has a regular run hauling a one piece cargo thats 60,000 pounds, he uses 12 chains, three on each corner, one sideways, one back , and one down.
That's why trailers are supposed to have safety bulkheads- to stop steel from killing truck drivers and other drivers on the roadways.
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Bulk head won't stop a coil once it gets moving. You got to chain them right, and start them in a cradle of 4x4's. Minimum two chains to the back ,one to the front . I used to see idiots tie down rolls with straps. CHP would shut them down , fines about $150 per chain required and not used.
DeleteWe process those rolls where I work, we have them stacked up in rows four high and ten long in the warehouse and there is a huge machine that unwinds them , flattens them into plate and then cuts them to length. Those rolls weigh up to 50,000 lbs each and I was ten feet away when one of the chocks that hold the stacks up let go and three rolls took off across the floor. The whole warehouse shook when the one on top hit the ground.
ReplyDeleteI didn't see that one hit because at that point I was already beating feet the other way.
Phil@Bustednuckles.com
What kind of thickness are we talking about?
DeleteTypically 20-100 thousandths thick. Figure 40 or 50 thou as a common number, around 20 - 18 gage for a walkaround number.
DeleteYou don't need a college degree to learn physics.
ReplyDeleteObjects in motion tend to stay in motion.
DeleteDid the driver survive this?
ReplyDeleteLooks like the seat is pushed into the steering wheel, so not likely.
DeleteI was a overhead crane operator (up in the crane). I also watched steel coils get loose and roll through the building. A bulkhead on that trailer would have saved him.
ReplyDeleteMe thinks someone needs to have a discussion with the loadmaster!
ReplyDeleteIt's the drivers responsibility to chain them down right.
DeleteWouldn't it be better to lay them on the flat side & not the round side?
ReplyDeleteOverhead crane couldn't pick them up to off load them.
DeleteSo you're saying magnets don't work any more?
Deletenot with stainless
DeleteNot survivable, I'm guessin'.
ReplyDeleteOn the bright side, the roll doesn't look damaged!
DeleteYou can see some chain dribbled down the side of the cab.
Anon 3:37-
DeleteThose used to be his air hoses.
That's why they call this, rolling front to back, suicide. Or load it so if it comes loose and rolls down the road it unwinds. There are reasons why nobody wants to haul this stuff.
ReplyDeletenow look for a picture of a guy hauling rebar that stops up short.
DeleteIn a way, it's just laziness. A proper transport would have a trailer bed molded with notches for these to nest securely without danger of shifting. It's too great a danger, with this much weight, to leave it to the judgment of a driver.
ReplyDeleteNope! There is a reel rack that is laid out on the flatbed. It is basically a 2" angle iron welded together with a 1.5" angle iron to cradle the reel. A reel of power line is 9, 500 pounds. I use 3 chains on one of those. One pulling strait down, one pulling forward, and one pulling to the rear with all going through the center hole. They are usually very profitable runs.
DeleteReels need to be hauled on drop frame trailers or Hot Shot goosenecks. Dock height flatbeds are the least desirable to haul reels.
When I was in 6th grade, about 12 years old, one of my classmates father that worked for GM had this happen. Killed him, picture made the front page of the Detroit News. Avoidable tragedy.
ReplyDeleteThis is why I had no desire to pull flatbed. That, and the stories you hear about "this load must be tarped" only to have the receiver unload and place "protected cargo" in the dirt, mud, water, whatever.
ReplyDeleteSome guys are real good at tarping their loads, nice tight, no flapping in the breeze. Other loads look like a big balloon going down the road.
"dirt, mud, water and whatever"
DeleteYes, and the second verse is, after the whatever sits in the muck for six months and the paint fails, they will come back at the manufacturer for faulty paint.
I worked as a heavy mechanic in a rolling mill for a while, outside of the Bay Area. The average roll weight produced was between 25 and 30 tons. And yes, the floor does shake when the overhead crane magnet drops a scrap coil in front of you. Kindly secure your loads, folks...
ReplyDeleteCheap Amazon straps.
ReplyDeleteOnly guy I know that hauls coils uses 5 or 6 chains on each coil,
ReplyDeletehe always uses double what should be used.
my neighbor drives flatbed and always hauls oversize and overweight cargo.
he has a regular run hauling a one piece cargo thats 60,000 pounds, he uses 12 chains, three on each corner, one sideways, one back , and one down.