And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
I recently read a statistic that at the end of WW-2 there were exactly 7 four-star generals or admirals for over 16 million troops. Today there are something like 37 four-star generals for 1.6 million troops. We are f*cked.
Not being a prick but did you count the Five-Star Generals at the end of WWII? Marshall, MacArthur, Ike and Arnold (in that order) all picked up a 5th Star in December of '44.
My late father in law was in the RASC and drove several notables during WW2. He said Ike was a lovely chap and Montgomery was a shitehouse. He also thought that Gracie Fields was a narcissist and a pain in the neck.
Dwight D. Eisenhower was responsible for requesting approval to classify German Prisoners of War as Disarmed Enemy Forces. Why? So those POW's would not be subject to the Geneva Conventions on treatment of POW's. Why bother with that request? Research the Rheinwiesenlagers (Rhine Meadow Camps) where these now DEF's were held behind barbed wire without shelter, little if any food, hours-long waits to receive water, and brutal conditions of abuse for months after they had surrendered. Many thousands who died as a result were tossed in unmarked graves without the proper military processing or notification to next-of-kin.
And if you read one paragraph further, you'll find that the Rhinemeadows camps were turned over to the French in July 1945, at the insistence of DeGaulle. The French then used (and abused) the German prisoners as slave labor for the next three years.
Even the German top estimate for Rhinemeadow POW deaths was fewer than 6,000 - the vast majority of which occurred after the turnover.
Oh, and by the way - what do you call prisoners of war after the war ends? What do you call them when they never surrendered in the field, but turned in their arms after the war?
Ike was MacArthur's ADC during the Bonus March. Recall a photo of maj/lt. col Ike standing with Mac on Key Bridge in Washington, DC. Early in the life of our armored forces Ike worked with Patton in developing tactics and procedures for armor. As for logistics, Victor Krulak is an good example of a general who connected the dots of "bean, bullets and bandages" and how to utilize them with a fighting force.
If true, Kraut bastards deserved what they got. I would have shot every one serving in a concentration camp. The mostly peaceful Germans gave hitler his muscle.
That's pretty much what happened. A few thousand served as camp guards. Millions served their country as soldiers, sailors, and airmen.
Oh, and by the way - no "death camp" was ever discovered by the Western Allies or listed in German records. They were only reported by the Soviets after the war. You know, just like they reported how the Germans massacred all those Polish officers in Katyn forest.
IIRC, one of the most aggravating things to Ike and his ilk was that the Germans, pretty much across the board, were much better at war than the Allies, with ~2 to 1 kill ratio just for the foot soldiers alone against the Western Powers. Against the Soviets, it was more like 14 to 1. If not for the late war surprise to the idiots in charge, about the desires of Stalin toward all of Europe, the Allies would have followed through with their stated intention to turn Germany into an agrarian country, without any manufacturing ability or capability. We intended to kill a lot of Germans, the Soviets intended to kill most/all of them. To the Soviets, the Germans were the bogyman, for a couple generations. Ike was just getting a head start on the plan. Seemed like Patton was the only smart guy, he wanted to take on the Soviets as soon as Germany surrendered, as he could see what was going to happen. He wanted the Germans to be added to our forces. TPTB had him killed for his thinking. The US government was totally riddled with communist lovers in positions of power.
"We intended to kill a lot of Germans" True, if by "we" you mean the Communist Jews in the State Department. Eisenhower opposed the plan, refused to fully implement it, and finally told the State Department to go to Hell.
"...not wearing his full rack. Which is an option to dress still to this day."
near on 50-years ago, recall meeting up with my old company CO in traffic one evening; he was walking and I was driving. When near enough, I called him. Shared a 2-3 block ride before dropping him off. In addition to picking up a pay grade, I noted he was wearing an award for valor. His rack consisted of two ribbons; the valor award and my bad in drawing a blank what the other was for.
Only 2 rows of medals. He makes todays Generals look like tarted up whores.
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They are
DeleteYou beat me to it. Now Milley knows how to make a fruit salad. (Ugh....)
DeleteThis comment always comes up. He’s not wearing this full rack, which is an option. It’s also an alpha move
DeleteIt’s also because he spent most of his time in staff positions with very limited actual field/combat …
ReplyDeleteNever fought or commanded a battle.
ReplyDeleteBut he could move the guns and beans
Armies fight on their stomachs
DeleteLogistics wins wars. How far can you push that tank.
ReplyDeleteA lot of men died due to poor decisions, like listening to Montgomery and not listening to Patton.
ReplyDeleteBecause politics.
DeleteLike why that socialist tart rode through liberated Paris.
Liike why Patton had to die.
And a thousand other examples.
I recently read a statistic that at the end of WW-2 there were exactly 7 four-star generals or admirals for over 16 million troops. Today there are something like 37 four-star generals for 1.6 million troops. We are f*cked.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget an Admiral for every ship.
DeleteAnd they cancelled the Marine Corp ball. In peacetime!
Unforgiveable.
They are killing the institutions and wiping history.
Not being a prick but did you count the Five-Star Generals at the end of WWII?
DeleteMarshall, MacArthur, Ike and Arnold (in that order) all picked up a 5th Star in December of '44.
There is a wonderful Ike museum in Abeline KS.
ReplyDeleteMy late father in law was in the RASC and drove several notables during WW2. He said Ike was a lovely chap and Montgomery was a shitehouse. He also thought that Gracie Fields was a narcissist and a pain in the neck.
ReplyDeleteYou'd never catch Ike in a skirt. No like bender generals of today.
ReplyDeleteIIRC, he was involved in the attack on the Bonus Army in the D.C. area. Not something I would want on my resume...
ReplyDeleteDwight D. Eisenhower was responsible for requesting approval to classify German Prisoners of War as Disarmed Enemy Forces. Why? So those POW's would not be subject to the Geneva Conventions on treatment of POW's. Why bother with that request? Research the Rheinwiesenlagers (Rhine Meadow Camps) where these now DEF's were held behind barbed wire without shelter, little if any food, hours-long waits to receive water, and brutal conditions of abuse for months after they had surrendered. Many thousands who died as a result were tossed in unmarked graves without the proper military processing or notification to next-of-kin.
ReplyDeleteDwight D. Eisenhower was a war criminal.
Oh for cripes sake.
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DeleteTOTALLY HAPPENED! For fuckin' real. The guy who feels so deeply for cripes in heaven is too lazy to read history.
DeleteWord. Read the book: ACCEPTABLE LOSSES.
DeleteAnd if you read one paragraph further, you'll find that the Rhinemeadows camps were turned over to the French in July 1945, at the insistence of DeGaulle. The French then used (and abused) the German prisoners as slave labor for the next three years.
DeleteEven the German top estimate for Rhinemeadow POW deaths was fewer than 6,000 - the vast majority of which occurred after the turnover.
Oh, and by the way - what do you call prisoners of war after the war ends? What do you call them when they never surrendered in the field, but turned in their arms after the war?
Ike was MacArthur's ADC during the Bonus March. Recall a photo of maj/lt.
ReplyDeletecol Ike standing with Mac on Key Bridge in Washington, DC. Early in the life of our armored forces Ike worked with Patton in developing tactics and procedures for armor.
As for logistics, Victor Krulak is an good example of a general who connected the dots of "bean, bullets and bandages" and how to utilize them with a fighting force.
If true, Kraut bastards deserved what they got. I would have shot every one serving in a concentration camp. The mostly peaceful Germans gave hitler his muscle.
ReplyDeleteThat's pretty much what happened. A few thousand served as camp guards. Millions served their country as soldiers, sailors, and airmen.
DeleteOh, and by the way - no "death camp" was ever discovered by the Western Allies or listed in German records. They were only reported by the Soviets after the war. You know, just like they reported how the Germans massacred all those Polish officers in Katyn forest.
IIRC, one of the most aggravating things to Ike and his ilk was that the Germans, pretty much across the board, were much better at war than the Allies, with ~2 to 1 kill ratio just for the foot soldiers alone against the Western Powers. Against the Soviets, it was more like 14 to 1. If not for the late war surprise to the idiots in charge, about the desires of Stalin toward all of Europe, the Allies would have followed through with their stated intention to turn Germany into an agrarian country, without any manufacturing ability or capability. We intended to kill a lot of Germans, the Soviets intended to kill most/all of them. To the Soviets, the Germans were the bogyman, for a couple generations. Ike was just getting a head start on the plan. Seemed like Patton was the only smart guy, he wanted to take on the Soviets as soon as Germany surrendered, as he could see what was going to happen. He wanted the Germans to be added to our forces. TPTB had him killed for his thinking. The US government was totally riddled with communist lovers in positions of power.
ReplyDelete"We intended to kill a lot of Germans"
DeleteTrue, if by "we" you mean the Communist Jews in the State Department. Eisenhower opposed the plan, refused to fully implement it, and finally told the State Department to go to Hell.
note the ribbons and medals on his chest. then compare that with our Sec Def and Sec Army.
ReplyDeleteHe’s not wearing his full rack. Which is an option to dress still to this day.
Delete"...not wearing his full rack. Which is an option to dress still to this day."
Deletenear on 50-years ago, recall meeting up with my old company CO in traffic one evening; he was walking and I was driving. When near enough, I called him. Shared a 2-3 block ride before dropping him off. In addition to picking up a pay grade, I noted he was wearing an award for valor. His rack consisted of two ribbons; the valor award and my bad in drawing a blank what the other was for.
To quote Lee Marvin in "The Dirty Dozen", seems Ike was also "not interested in embroidery", but only results....
ReplyDeletePure photo op.
ReplyDeleteAs if any four-star general every drove his own jeep...