And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Wednesday, January 22, 2020
Can't be true. They really can't be this stupid. So unconstitutional it squeaks. Dems are gonna have some bad days at the Supreme Court in the near future.
I check Townhall.com first thing every day, hoping to read that Justice Ginsberg or Justice Breyer have vacated the Supreme Court. Imagine the wails and lamentations, and laugh like a maniac
I live in VA, and yes.....yes it is. It's totally Orwellian. When we first got here almost 20 yrs ago we thought we'd retire in the VA mountains, but now, NO WAY. The insanity curve is a hockey stick...you can't imagine how BAD Fairfax and the N. VA area has gotten...nearly California East.
18 USC 242 Deprivation of rights under color of law Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both;
oh they're going after freedom of assembly, freedom of association, the militia clause, and every other right plus taxing everything that moves or doesn't move. it's going to be hell until folks start the freedom games, which i predict won't be too long now. late april seems to be the kickoff time for these kind of things. sic semper tyrannis.
Maybe this is a new gambit by the Democrats, being trialed in Virginia. Where majority rules, pass tyrannical laws that are patently unconstitutional and take advantage of the opportunities between passage of the law and its eventual appeal in the Supreme Court, to wreak havoc known as 'Social Change for your own good'. The process to the Supreme Courts through legal challenges can take years until the laws can potentially be overturned. Years of opportunity not to be wasted. It all works well, while the populace remains peaceable. Lawfare. Get the idea?
When this all goes hot, they can't say people didn't try every means at their disposal to convince these wannabe tyrants to back off. Here's hoping we're thorough in our eradication efforts...
Sometimes you think that it has to be fake news coming out of the Virginia Statehouse, but almost inevitably is true. They ought to take a long look at the state seal, "Sic Semper Tyrannis", then look in the mirror.
My sense is that Bloomberg and friends bribed them HARD and are expecting a return on investment and it's driving them insane.
ll, bloomy personally gave northam 2.5 mil,the max. but bloomy also funds the national governors association almost single handed, which gave northam another 6.5 mil. bloomy alsogave several local dimwits millions to run in their respective districts, each. local republicans used to spending a few thousand to run were overwhelmed. the rino va gop rolled over and played dead.
Did anyone here try to source this before making comments? Nope. Just read the headline and on the way with the outrage. Conservatives can be as stupid as liberals. I am ashamed.
The bill was linked in the story, including the bill's full text. Most of it is about making threats of bodily harm to officials and their families, which is fairly standard, in fact I'm surprised they don't already have laws covering it (they probably do). But there is also this: "If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor." Which (my opinion) is an attempt to cast a pretty wide net over free speech, given today's media environment and the dreck they promote. There are ways to promote such offenses into felonies, if you are an enterprising prosecutor. The link is easy to find in the article.
Just read the bill. Frankly, I actually agree with the vast majority of it and quite frankly wonder why the things it says were not already against the law.
"1. Any person who knowingly communicates, in a writing, including an electronically transmitted communication producing a visual or electronic message, a threat to kill or do bodily injury to a person, regarding that person or any member of his family, and the threat places such person in reasonable apprehension of death or bodily injury to himself or his family member, is guilty of a Class 6 felony. However, any person who violates this subsection with the intent to commit an act of terrorism as defined in § 18.2-46.4 is guilty of a Class 5 felony.
2. Any person who communicates a threat, in a writing, including an electronically transmitted communication producing a visual or electronic message, to kill or do bodily harm, (i) on the grounds or premises of any elementary, middle or secondary school property, (ii) at any elementary, middle or secondary school-sponsored event or (iii) on a school bus to any person or persons, regardless of whether the person who is the object of the threat actually receives the threat, and the threat would place the person who is the object of the threat in reasonable apprehension of death or bodily harm, is guilty of a Class 6 felony.
B. Any person who orally makes a threat to kill or to do bodily injury to (i) any employee of any elementary, middle or secondary school, while on a school bus, on school property or at a school-sponsored activity or (ii) any health care provider as defined in § 8.01-581.1 who is engaged in the performance of his duties in a hospital as defined in § 18.2-57 or in an emergency room on the premises of any clinic or other facility rendering emergency medical care, unless the person is on the premises of the hospital or emergency room of the clinic or other facility rendering emergency medical care as a result of an emergency custody order pursuant to § 37.2-808, involuntary temporary detention order pursuant to § 37.2-809, involuntary hospitalization order pursuant to § 37.2-817, or emergency custody order of a conditionally released acquittee pursuant to § 19.2-182.9, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor."
"Any person (a) (i) who makes and communicates to another by any means any threat to bomb, burn, destroy or in any manner damage any place of assembly, building or other structure, or any means of transportation, or (b) (ii) who communicates to another, by any means, information, knowing the same to be false, as to the existence of any peril of bombing, burning, destruction or damage to any such place of assembly, building or other structure, or any means of transportation, shall be is guilty of a Class 5 felony;, provided, however, that if such person be is under fifteen 15 years of age, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor."
"If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A violation of this section may be prosecuted in the jurisdiction in which the communication was made or received or in the City of Richmond if the person subjected to the act is one of the following officials or employees of the Commonwealth: the Governor, Governor-elect, Lieutenant Governor, Lieutenant Governor-elect, Attorney General, or Attorney General-elect, a member or employee of the General Assembly, a justice of the Supreme Court of Virginia, or a judge of the Court of Appeals of Virginia."
They're gonna be horrified to discover a lot of Americans have skipped over criticizing them to actually planning their extermination... Outlaw THAT cocksuckers.
Yes.... EVENTUALLY such laws make it to the SCOTUS and will most likely be squashed. But that process can take YEARS, even a decade or more. In the interim the bastards behind such abuses can use such evil laws to do a LOT of damage to a LOT of citizens opposing them.
I check Townhall.com first thing every day, hoping to read that Justice Ginsberg or Justice Breyer have vacated the Supreme Court. Imagine the wails and lamentations, and laugh like a maniac
ReplyDeleteIs Virginia about to go full Animal Farm?... (George Orwell)
ReplyDeleteI live in VA, and yes.....yes it is. It's totally Orwellian. When we first got here almost 20 yrs ago we thought we'd retire in the VA mountains, but now, NO WAY. The insanity curve is a hockey stick...you can't imagine how BAD Fairfax and the N. VA area has gotten...nearly California East.
Delete18 USC 242 Deprivation of rights under color of law
DeleteWhoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both;
This will be fun to watch. You do know "Freedom of Speech" is only for Democrats, don't you.
ReplyDeleteoh they're going after freedom of assembly, freedom of association, the militia clause, and every other right plus taxing everything that moves or doesn't move. it's going to be hell until folks start the freedom games, which i predict won't be too long now. late april seems to be the kickoff time for these kind of things. sic semper tyrannis.
ReplyDeleteMaybe this is a new gambit by the Democrats, being trialed in Virginia. Where majority rules, pass tyrannical laws that are patently unconstitutional and take advantage of the opportunities between passage of the law and its eventual appeal in the Supreme Court, to wreak havoc known as 'Social Change for your own good'. The process to the Supreme Courts through legal challenges can take years until the laws can potentially be overturned. Years of opportunity not to be wasted. It all works well, while the populace remains peaceable. Lawfare. Get the idea?
ReplyDelete"Majority rule". Ya know another place where majority rules? Gang rape... I'll pass on both examples, thanks all the same.
DeleteWhen this all goes hot, they can't say people didn't try every means at their disposal to convince these wannabe tyrants to back off. Here's hoping we're thorough in our eradication efforts...
ReplyDeleteKurt Schlichter's "Great Separation" is looking more and more appealing.
ReplyDeleteSometimes you think that it has to be fake news coming out of the Virginia Statehouse, but almost inevitably is true. They ought to take a long look at the state seal, "Sic Semper Tyrannis", then look in the mirror.
ReplyDeleteMy sense is that Bloomberg and friends bribed them HARD and are expecting a return on investment and it's driving them insane.
ll, bloomy personally gave northam 2.5 mil,the max. but bloomy also funds the national governors association almost single handed, which gave northam another 6.5 mil. bloomy alsogave several local dimwits millions to run in their respective districts, each. local republicans used to spending a few thousand to run were overwhelmed. the rino va gop rolled over and played dead.
DeleteThere were at least 10 seats in the House and Senate of Virginia that ran unopposed. You can bet your sweet bippy that shit aint happening again.
DeleteSource please. I don't doubt that they would try but I can't find any source to this.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone here try to source this before making comments? Nope. Just read the headline and on the way with the outrage. Conservatives can be as stupid as liberals. I am ashamed.
ReplyDeleteThe bill was linked in the story, including the bill's full text. Most of it is about making threats of bodily harm to officials and their families, which is fairly standard, in fact I'm surprised they don't already have laws covering it (they probably do). But there is also this: "If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor." Which (my opinion) is an attempt to cast a pretty wide net over free speech, given today's media environment and the dreck they promote. There are ways to promote such offenses into felonies, if you are an enterprising prosecutor. The link is easy to find in the article.
Deletehttp://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB1627
ReplyDeleteA link to the wording of the bill is on that page.
Read the whole bill. A statement that you will not comply with a law is a felony.
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DeleteAt what point do the U.S. Marshals walk into the Capitol and cuff these clowns?
ReplyDeleteTalk about taking a little more rope....
ReplyDeleteJust read the bill. Frankly, I actually agree with the vast majority of it and quite frankly wonder why the things it says were not already against the law.
ReplyDelete"1. Any person who knowingly communicates, in a writing, including an electronically transmitted communication producing a visual or electronic message, a threat to kill or do bodily injury to a person, regarding that person or any member of his family, and the threat places such person in reasonable apprehension of death or bodily injury to himself or his family member, is guilty of a Class 6 felony. However, any person who violates this subsection with the intent to commit an act of terrorism as defined in § 18.2-46.4 is guilty of a Class 5 felony.
2. Any person who communicates a threat, in a writing, including an electronically transmitted communication producing a visual or electronic message, to kill or do bodily harm, (i) on the grounds or premises of any elementary, middle or secondary school property, (ii) at any elementary, middle or secondary school-sponsored event or (iii) on a school bus to any person or persons, regardless of whether the person who is the object of the threat actually receives the threat, and the threat would place the person who is the object of the threat in reasonable apprehension of death or bodily harm, is guilty of a Class 6 felony.
B. Any person who orally makes a threat to kill or to do bodily injury to (i) any employee of any elementary, middle or secondary school, while on a school bus, on school property or at a school-sponsored activity or (ii) any health care provider as defined in § 8.01-581.1 who is engaged in the performance of his duties in a hospital as defined in § 18.2-57 or in an emergency room on the premises of any clinic or other facility rendering emergency medical care, unless the person is on the premises of the hospital or emergency room of the clinic or other facility rendering emergency medical care as a result of an emergency custody order pursuant to § 37.2-808, involuntary temporary detention order pursuant to § 37.2-809, involuntary hospitalization order pursuant to § 37.2-817, or emergency custody order of a conditionally released acquittee pursuant to § 19.2-182.9, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor."
"Any person (a) (i) who makes and communicates to another by any means any threat to bomb, burn, destroy or in any manner damage any place of assembly, building or other structure, or any means of transportation, or (b) (ii) who communicates to another, by any means, information, knowing the same to be false, as to the existence of any peril of bombing, burning, destruction or damage to any such place of assembly, building or other structure, or any means of transportation, shall be is guilty of a Class 5 felony;, provided, however, that if such person be is under fifteen 15 years of age, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor."
"If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A violation of this section may be prosecuted in the jurisdiction in which the communication was made or received or in the City of Richmond if the person subjected to the act is one of the following officials or employees of the Commonwealth: the Governor, Governor-elect, Lieutenant Governor, Lieutenant Governor-elect, Attorney General, or Attorney General-elect, a member or employee of the General Assembly, a justice of the Supreme Court of Virginia, or a judge of the Court of Appeals of Virginia."
You coulda saved some typing and just flat out said "I'm a bootlicking, anti-liberty piece of shit".
Deletewell, isn't hate speech also free free speech?
ReplyDeleteThey're gonna be horrified to discover a lot of Americans have skipped over criticizing them to actually planning their extermination... Outlaw THAT cocksuckers.
ReplyDeleteYes.... EVENTUALLY such laws make it to the SCOTUS and will most likely be squashed. But that process can take YEARS, even a decade or more. In the interim the bastards behind such abuses can use such evil laws to do a LOT of damage to a LOT of citizens opposing them.
ReplyDeleteThree "men" who hate the great US of A!
ReplyDelete