And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
The F86 encountered its younger sibling, the Mig 15, in Korea rather than this beastie. The US encountered these in Vietnam and although slower than most of the US jets on paper, when the F4 etc... were loaded with bombs they were subsonic so the Mach 2+ bragging didn't mean much. The Mig 17 was always a handful in a dog fight according to a certain, I recall, R Olds who was pretty good himself.
Olds was one of the best there ever was, and his book, Fighter Pilot, should be required reading. He made one of his kills flying a crippled P-38, he was that good.
Never realized how graceful this MIG was, has an almost organic form, not unlike the F86, just from different engineering, but form follows function particularly before digital flight control substituted manual flight control, the MIG 17 has these features too. At first Russian fighter jets look strange, being used to US engineering approach to design, but I have always thought Russian fighter design still incorporates certain organic style, like the Su57, it is a very beautiful plane with its flowing contours, where say the F15 Eagle has a more predatory shape, its sharper angular surfaces, and more aggressive appearing, with a kind of minimalist approach, a very handsome plane, iconic almost. But this is a little hotrod you strap on your arse. Goes like the dickins.
I never made enough to buy a Cessna 140. imagine having the income required to house, operate, maintain and fly this beastie with the skill level this guy shows, and having the time to acquire and maintain that proficiency. what does this guy do for a living? what does his house look like, and what's in his garage?
A few years back, the Ellsworth AFB Air Show featured a MiG-17 demonstration like this. Don’t know if it’s the same plane, but I think the owner was a Delta pilot. An impressive aircraft.
Your description of the man has to be Robert who lives at Discovery Bay. The first I met him was in the early 1990s. For a time he flew with another MiG17.
Discovery Bay is well inhabited by airline pilots.
That was really impressive. Can see why it gave the F86 so much trouble.
ReplyDeleteBrouthers from another mother.
DeleteSeed was planted in WWII, in Germany.
The F86 encountered its younger sibling, the Mig 15, in Korea rather than this beastie. The US encountered these in Vietnam and although slower than most of the US jets on paper, when the F4 etc... were loaded with bombs they were subsonic so the Mach 2+ bragging didn't mean much. The Mig 17 was always a handful in a dog fight according to a certain, I recall, R Olds who was pretty good himself.
ReplyDeleteOlds was one of the best there ever was, and his book, Fighter Pilot, should be required reading. He made one of his kills flying a crippled P-38, he was that good.
DeleteNever realized how graceful this MIG was, has an almost organic form, not unlike the F86, just from different engineering, but form follows function particularly before digital flight control substituted manual flight control, the MIG 17 has these features too.
ReplyDeleteAt first Russian fighter jets look strange, being used to US engineering approach to design, but I have always thought Russian fighter design still incorporates certain organic style, like the Su57, it is a very beautiful plane with its flowing contours, where say the F15 Eagle has a more predatory shape, its sharper angular surfaces, and more aggressive appearing, with a kind of minimalist approach, a very handsome plane, iconic almost.
But this is a little hotrod you strap on your arse. Goes like the dickins.
Wow. Some fantastic low level shots. Haulin' Ass. Mach .9 not too shabby.
ReplyDeleteI never made enough to buy a Cessna 140. imagine having the income required to house, operate, maintain and fly this beastie with the skill level this guy shows, and having the time to acquire and maintain that proficiency. what does this guy do for a living? what does his house look like, and what's in his garage?
ReplyDeleteA few years back, the Ellsworth AFB Air Show featured a MiG-17 demonstration like this. Don’t know if it’s the same plane, but I think the owner was a Delta pilot. An impressive aircraft.
ReplyDeleteYour description of the man has to be Robert who lives at Discovery Bay. The first I met him was in the early 1990s. For a time he flew with another MiG17.
DeleteDiscovery Bay is well inhabited by airline pilots.