Wednesday, May 6, 2020

This is how it works. First, the agents of illegitimate power try and pick you off one at a time.

Then more stand up, then more and more, until their authority vanishes, and the people retake what is theirs.

They way they made her kneel in the sand is infuriating.  These cops have no clue the fine line they are walking, and what happens when they cross it in front of hundreds.  It's amazing to me there was no violence.

It's good thing Americans still trust the police, and see them as basically good, which they are.  But this thing they were doing was stupid in the extreme, and damages their good name and the perception of legitimate authority in general.  Let's not do this anymore.

And this happened in California.


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  1. This shows something important: If enough people begin defying the order en masse, the few police officers who try to stop the first seeming lone nut will, eventually, back down. They don't have enough numbers at that time.

    I think the big question is, what happens when they show up in numbers to seriously try to stop people? This scenario shows that with small numbers, they won't try anything too serious, because they know they'll lose the fight. Now they know also that people are serious enough to cross the arbitrary line peaceably—my guess is, they up the ante big time for the next protest. The stuff of which those protesters are actually made will then become apparent, when the pushback gets stiffer.

    I hope they, and others like them elsewhere, are made of stern stuff. It hasn't gotten to this point where I am. But if those in power are serious about flexing their power, then things will become ugly somewhere.

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    1. They will show up in their swat military equipment
      They had better be careful, because they still live among us

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  2. It appears that there are too many LEOs who are willing to follow unconstitutional/illegal orders. Are they going to be willing to shoot protesters when they start taking fire?

    Paul L. Quandt

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  3. This is a prime example of herd insanity. Natural selection in real time. Weaker members of the herd self selecting for culling.

    You may disagree. That is your constitutional right. Covid19 doesn't give a damn about constitutional rights, tyranny, economics, guns, or anything else. Will be interesting to see how this affects the death rate.

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    1. They're young and healthy. They'll all be fine if they get it. They're risking passing it on to any elderly or obese persons, or those with serious illness that they visit.

      And that's if any of the virus is present, and if its fragile outer cost can survive the heavy UV bombadment.

      Basic virology doesn't care about your virtue-signalling either.

      But your would-be Gestapo overlords do.

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    2. Maybe you missed the part where they are in full sun. Maybe you missed the part where sunlight kills virus. Maybe you missed the part where simply wearing a mask is insufficient, that it really does matter the type of mask and how the mask is worn. Maybe you missed the very low death rate. In fact, the death rate is increased by staying indoors.

      But yeah, let's not talk about constitutionally protected rights. Or how unilateral edicts from the tin pot do not have the Rule of Law nor do they apply to ordinary citizens. Such talk is too quaint and beneath the intelligentsia.

      Rick

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  4. If you defy the Socialist masters they send the local gestapo to suppress you. If that doesn't work they send the National gestapo (Military) to get the job done. It's happening here in America for several reasons. Millennials have never learned history the way it was taught 75 years ago, therefore they're fed the mantra: "Socialism is the great equalized, therefore it's good". The forces that rule us give us just enough toys and comfort to make us complacent, while when most fall for the cheese in the Socialist trap a few independent minded people resist. But once the cultural chain reaction goes into meltdown resistance is futile. I'm not trying to depress anyone unnecessarily. I'm a 78 year old realist and look at the scope of the past related to the present and I've have concluded the future doesn't look good for a Constitutional America.

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  5. The difference here though is that the lockdown is to try and slow the spread of a virus and save lives. No one wants a lockdown, especially the authorities that say we should lockdown as it hurts the economy. However, so does losing a substantial part of the workforce through illness and/or death. The biggest problem is that the virus is being treated as a political issue. It is no such thing. It does not obey any rules, not even the Constitution. It will only be stamped out by denying it the opportunity to spread. Unfortunately the only way to do that does not concur with the Constitutional approach. The writers of the Constitution could never have even dreamt of anything like Covid19. It might just be time to accept that something has come along that will require special measures that are not covered by the Constitution, instead of just braying about constitutional rights and exposing oneself to the virus. Talk about cutting one's nose off to spite one's face.

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    1. Lock down is not to save lives! It is to spread the dying over a longer period so the medical system is not "overwhelmed". Sweden did the right thing ... we listened to the IYI (Intelectual Yet Idiot) experts aka agents of the State.

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    2. You assume information being disseminated by the CDC and governments is accurate and a quarantine is needed. I suppose it depends on who you want to listen to and believe. If you believe you should stay home and shelter in place then do so. If you believe you should be out in nature in the sun then do so. I don't need government telling me how to take care of myself. A big problem is government is using this to exert more control over us, training the citizenry to jump when ordered to do so. Also, do you truly believe the framers of the Constitution had never heard of a plague? Consider: Plague of Athens: 430 B.C., Antonine Plague: A.D. 165-180., Plague of Cyprian: A.D. 250-271., Plague of Justinian: A.D. 541-542., The Black Death: 1346-1353., Cocoliztli epidemic: 1545-1548 ., American Plagues: 16th century., Great Plague of London: 1665-1666., Great Plague of Marseille: 1720-1723., Russian plague: 1770-1772., Philadelphia yellow fever epidemic: 1793. I'm pretty sure they were familiar.

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    3. Of course lockdown saves lives. If you are isolated you don't catch it. If you don't catch it you don't get sick. Sadly some who get sick die. If you don't lockdown more will get sick, more will die and the medical system becomes overwhelmed as a consequence.

      No point in arguing really. Time will tell which of us is right. Just note that America has the highest death rate in the world right now.

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    4. That is factually untrue and you do a great many people a disservice by saying things like that. America has the highest death toll because its population is higher than most other countries. Our death rate is far from being the highest.

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

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    5. The writers of the Constitution could never have even dreamt of anything like Covid19

      Small pox
      Great pox
      Yellow fever
      The flux
      Ague
      Grippe
      "Bad Night Air" (Mosquito-born malaria)

      I don't have all day, but I could go on. The founders not only imagined "something like C-19", they lived it. Or worse.

      They even imagined foolish souls like you who would "sell their freedom for a little safety."

      You have "A Republic," Ben Franklin said, "if you can keep it."

      Poor kid. You don't even know how much you don't know.

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    6. I don't have Blogspot account, so my actual name doesn't pop up here. But notice, OvergrownHobbit, what the other "Anonymous" hasn't responded to: your comment. (Props for beating me to the punch, btw—I'm the first Anonymous to comment on the post, above.)

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  6. I have the same amount of pity for them as I do for those in Michigan....they voted for the people that are doing this to them.

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    1. As they say, you reap what you sow.

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    2. I would say that the people protesting didn't vote for the people doing this, but where the ones who were outvoted by sheeple.

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    3. “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

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    4. Presently I am a few miles north of where this happened. I didn't vote for the tin pot or corrupt legislature. But being in the same state I am affected by it.

      CA has legalized voter fraud. As a long time poll worker I have educated myself on the voting process and I have seen fraud. Every time I have voiced my concerns they are poo-poo'd away and nothing happens. The Sect. of State is who is in charge of the vote. The current Sect is a Dem operative. He is not neutral in fulfilling his duties. Now there are new changes for 2020 and voter fraud is more than ever seen before. Come November, it will be wide-open voter fraud. You'll see.

      Rick

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  7. I recommend all true Patriot police officers and military to join Oath Keepers. We swore to uphold the Constitution and we mean it.

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  8. New York, City and State (but mostly the City) have the highest infection and death rate. It's a function of their chosen mode of living; high density, reliance on public transportation, electing moronic Socialists.
    Bear this in mind:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nyc-coronavirus-death-toll-should-include-those-dying-at-home-without-diagnosis-de-blasio/ar-BB12jZlE
    "Hundreds of New Yorkers dying at home without a coronavirus diagnosis should be counted in the city's death toll for the pandemic, Mayor de Blasio said Wednesday. "The blunt truth is ..."
    The Democrat controlled areas are padding the count of cases deliberately. They know why they are doing that, and so should we. They like the shutdown.

    Quarantines don't quarantine the healthy residents just the unknown traveler. If 20,30, and 40 year olds Choose to go to work, nobody should prevent that. No one should have the right. It should be to each to determine their own risk/benefit ratio. For someone in their 20's or 30's it seems to be low. If when I was thirty I had been prevented from working, forced to spend the money saved for a down-payment on a house; then I very likely would never have owned my own home, ever. I'd have been demanding to go back to work.
    Now I'm in my seventies, retired and living on SS and my pensions plus investment income. It's risky for me to resume outside activities and easy to restrict my outside trips to the bare necessities. I choose to stay home. I would NOT demand that any other man be forced to copy my choice.

    Though I worry about what going to happen when the warehouses are empty, I don't demand that the young go back to work to resume production of essential goods. It's their choice.
    A Fascist dictatorship is the same whether backed by bayonets or face masks.

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    1. All good points, well made. However, by choosing to go to work someone who feels absolutely fine could in fact be carrying the virus and spread it to someone else who may not fare so well. That is what lockdown for all will prevent.

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    2. And if both made their own decision to go to work and accept the risk?
      The fly in the ointment is the large, perhaps the overwhelming percentage, of asymptomatic cases only being discovered now by blanket anti-body tests. For many of the people in that age group it seems to be the case. If those that are older and perhaps more at risk continue to isolate themselves, large 'bumps' in the fatalities are unlikely.
      And people die from economic collapse too; suicides, delayed medical tests and procedures, alcoholism (keeping an eye on that one myself).

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    3. There are quite a few people appearing online now, most of them staying 'Anonymous' as above. We could all be carriers [snort]. Why yes, that's true. And we could all be disease-free too. The Point of the lockdown was to flatten the curve, not eliminate it, for the sake of our health care system. That message is now being supplanted by the old Booga-Booga, we should all huddle in terror until there are no more infections (Some governors have actually begun stipulating that)! John has it right. Anonymous is just spreading a different kind of infection. The choice to go out is an individual one, based on individual risk. The caravan is moving on as it should.

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    4. If Anonymous came back at me again my next (and last) question would be; I don't support the forcing of anyone else to stay inside as I am (with my own reasons for doing so).
      Do you? (Yeah, I kinda think he does.)

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    5. Yes, I do.

      I am also staying home. My wife is at high risk of severe illness if she catches it as she takes immune system suppressant meds and I am not prepared to put her at risk by going out and mixing with others.

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    6. "That is what lockdown for all will prevent."

      Exactly! I for one think we are not going far enough. A person driving in his car could have a heart attack or stroke, lose control of their vehicle, and crash into someone else, injuring or killing that person. People with high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes or age over 50 should not be allowed to drive.

      And for those under 51, one might choke on a soft drink while driving, lose control of the car, and kill someone! Drink holders must be filled up with concrete (at a State-approved facility) to ensure people are not having cup holders. The costs will be borne by the car owners, inspection fees will be reasonable and not more than $200 per axle on the vehicle.

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    7. Anon, wrt your wife: That is YOUR choice. I certainly will not opine if it is a good or bad choice. You know better than any of us what is best for your dear wife.

      However, where is MY choice? You are arguing that the state is best to make the choice for the people. I will never agree with that. I take pains to avoid the use of such absolutes but in this case, 'never' is appropriate.

      Rick

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  9. The cops and public officials in many states are not covering themselves with glory. In fact in many places they have just about pulled off the veneer that let people once respect cops. As we saw in NYC last year they pretty much contribute to their own destruction by their own actions.

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  10. I vote to ban the "anonymous" tab for commenting.

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    1. For your information my name is Russell. What difference does showing a name make? You still have no idea who I am just as I have no idea who you are. (Don't care either.

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    2. Nah! All is grist for the mill. So some commenters don't offer a name (shrug...), OK. No ones publishing their meat-space address, at most a few of us have a Blogger profile that leads a little further down the rabbit-hole to a personal blog.

      On Disqus (that's a love/hate relationship!) you can block seeing any comments made by any profile you want. I've done that when the noise level from a individual got to high, and in some cases I've been embarrassed to find I've been snookered by a talented satirist. (anyone familiar with JFKY?)

      It's easy enough to stop getting notifications from any thread. But I wouldn't want to see the place become an echo chamber.

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    3. Russell Anonymous I don't believe it makes any difference whatsoever if you show a name. I'm here for the guns, girls, razorblades, pictures, and humor.
      But another Anonymous that posts on here is in love with 'How dare you' Greta & every other liberal fantasy cumdumpster idea- having a name listed would keep me from reading what that person posted (since the name would identify the person).
      Just sign at the end "Russell" from now on so I know it ain't you. By your defensive nature to my above post (which had nothing to do with you), I'd guess you do a lot of the Greta-love posts, however.
      Every time I see "Anonymous" I think "How Dare You!?"
      Lol.

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  11. From the UK this week: After consultation with the NHS this week the government has decided to initiate a new policy for those not wanting to follow current lockdown regulations.

    Those wishing to leave their homes, meet friends, gather in public places and basically continue as they always have done prior to the lockdown can now do so once they agree to the terms in the new Totally Withhold All Treatment policy, TWAT for short.

    The new policy means you are more than willing to take your life in your own hands and will not be a burden to the health service should you fall ill following your own ignorant selfish stupidity.

    Those agreeing to these terms will be given stickers and labels to place on their clothing with the letters TWAT clearly visible. Once done, they will be free to continue their carefree lifestyles. After all, you only live once and what better way to prove it.

    So sign up now to the Totally Withhold All Treatment policy and display the letters proudly so that other people know to avoid you, or drag their knuckles along with you.

    TWAT – let the world know what you are.

    For everyone else, thank you and please continue to stay at home and stay safe.

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    1. TWAT. Another good idea.

      And I propose the identifier for other kinds of annoying people will be "Anonymous".

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  12. ORANGE COUNTY, CA

    This evening I went to the store for a few food items. Everyone except me was wearing a mask. I noticed other shoppers would see me coming, sans mask, hesitate, then turn around or wait for me to pass by before continuing their shopping. It was rather amusing.

    I noticed all types of masks, many homemade. Among the employees I counted more than a handful of dust masks. Yes, the reusable PM2.5 paper dust mask. (PM stands for particulate matter. 2.5 stands for 2.5 microns.) I also saw many poorly worn masks, the mask worn below the nose, the mask worn over a full beard, even some women tucking their long hear into the band just forward of the ear which then prevented the mask from forming a tight fit.

    Most alarming to me is these are my fellow citizens who have been so easily cowed into submission.

    I did get into 'trouble' because I did not adhere to the newly formed plastic tape barriers which formed one entrance/one exit. I simply walked to a register as usual instead. There was an employee stationed to direct people in line and tell them when they may proceed forward to the registers. What's next, a pat down before entering the store?

    Rick

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