Tuesday, January 6, 2026

Ceiling detail of 14th century barn. Imagine the investment of wealth and collection of skill it took to do this at that time.

 


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  1. When they built for duration rather than disintegration.
    Welcome to the throw away society.

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  2. That roof shows examples of gambrel bracing. When reading an excellent book on the history of the ship USS Constitution (which I made the mistake of lending and never saw it again) I found that one reason she was so fast in the water was the gambrel bracing installed by the original naval architect. This reduced the "bowing" that wooden ships could develop that increased drag.
    At one point in the ships history during a refit that bracing was removed because they didn't understand why it was there. A later reconstruction and refit restored it.

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    1. There is no such thing as gambrel bracing, especially in regards to wooden ship building. You are probably referring to "knees".

      The problem with the USS Constitution of flexing along it's length is called "hogging" and was cured with timbers installed along the full length of the lower hull in a cross over pattern which stiffened the entire hull. A fair portion of all the decks had to be removed to add the bracing.

      “As history can attest, Constitution represents a successful design. Joshua Humphreys, the designer of the Navy's first six frigates, that included Constitution, had two criteria to satisfy, to out gun the next rate ship and to out-sail adversaries. The solution required a never-before-built design.
      The successful integration of the two design criteria demanded an innovated technical solution to the problems of strength of materials and hull design. Humphreys understood that optimization of the two criteria became mutually exclusive when building a hull. The fine entry and run required for sailing qualities and the weight of a heavy armament causes particular problems for wooden hull sailing ships. Combining the weight of the guns and the buoyancy curve of a fast sailing hull results in a force that distorts the hull. The distortion known as "hog" is the bending along the length of the keel. It is the same curve that resembles the curve of a hog's back. With minimal buoyancy, the ends of the ship tend to drop down under the weight loads of the guns, while the center midbody, being more buoyant, rises upward. Humphreys recognized the need to stiffen the hull to resist the forces causing hogging.”

      Much more here:

      USS Constitution Rehabilitation And Restoration

      https://tinyurl.com/47v6uk6f

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    2. For many years, I leant out many of my books without thinking about the fact that the vast majority of borrowers had zero inclination to return them. I finally kept a journal of who borrowed what and when. That way, after a year or so, I'd question the borrower, and I ended up getting about 75% of them back.

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    3. Yeah, thing is this person died. Widow wasn't a book person, I didn't press the matter.
      The book had so many excellent details about the construction, such as the difficulty of harvesting the live oak from an island off the Carolinas. Many lives lost in the process.
      Wish I still had access to the book to check my memory against the details, it's been over thirty years.

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    4. Check ebay foy a replacement book.

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  3. The interior of the Bradford-on-Avon Tithe Barn, a significant example of medieval architecture in England.

    Built in the early 14th century, the barn was part of a manor farm belonging to Shaftesbury Abbey, the wealthiest nunnery in medieval England.

    It is considered one of the finest surviving medieval barns in the country, noted for its impressive ashlar masonry and original 14th-century cruck-framing roof structure.

    The barn is a Grade I listed building and is now owned and protected by English Heritage.

    It was in continuous use as a working farm building until the 1970s.


    History of Bradford-on-Avon Tithe Barn

    https://tinyurl.com/dpuwudj3

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    1. I was wondering why there was a cross in the stonework of a barn.
      Al_in_Ottawa

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    2. In those days: all glory goes to God in every activity

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    3. Also in those days, aside from top-level royalty, the church was pretty much the only entity wealthy enough to afford structures like this one. There's a reason the US ended up being populated by ex-serfs. A beautiful structure though.

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  4. If you look this place up you will see that the walls are buttressed where each truss is rooted, and also notice that the trusses are rooted far down the wall instead atop it. This is because the trusses do not fully contain the bowing forces of the mass of the roof. Other truss designs may do better (eg hammerbeam?) at resisting this, if they had been invented at that point .

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  5. Half the reason I come here is to read what ghostsniper has to say about buildings and women.

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  6. Ain't no zipper house. Helped my best friend with his post and beam home, so gratifying, there is character almost living in it. He cut his beams from trees on his land, supposedly it produces a longer living structure.

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    1. There's a decent crib I designed that is under construction right now. Be a few more weeks til they're ready for the roof. The timbers are being built by this company:

      https://thebeamery.com/

      2 story
      8" concrete floor in walk-out basement, with radiant heat
      8" poured concrete walls
      8" precast concrete 2nd floor w/ 4" poured concrete radiant heat
      8" poured concrete walls
      12"x12" timber trusses
      8"x8" timber purlins
      2"x8" t&g roof decking
      12" closed cell foam insulation
      100 year, 18ga, standing seam aluminum roofing

      The owner sold his steel fabrication business for $47m and this will be his forever home. It's on 190 acres and he's 55 years old, and my neighbor, friend, and shooting partner.

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  7. What is possible when workers were paid pennies per day.

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    1. There was a bigger picture back then. The workers may not have been *paid* at all. They may have had a stake in the farm, or have received regular proceeds infinitum, etc.

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    2. But those "pennies" went farther. Of course, there wasn't the plethora of "stuff" to buy, but wages were comparable to the ones today.

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  8. The way I understood it, the average German / Czech serf toiled 5 days a week for the king, one day a week for the church, and was allowed one day to work toward the benefit of his own family's survival. If this was a 'tithe barn', as mentioned above, I'm guessing it was stuffed with that one-day's contributions from the church members.

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  9. To me it looks like an upside-down wooden ship.

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  10. They could read a tree like we can read a book.

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  11. Done a couple but maybe not that big. Skill hasn't changed but tools have.

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  12. That looks like the barn Kubrick used in "Barry Lyndon", one of my favorite movies.

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