And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Don't forget the 2100m² of stainless steel that's available, plus all of the internal structures. Add to that the carbon fibre tankage and the remaining propellant plus the 200 metric tons of cargo per payload.... and sign me up!
Jumbo volume is really great and necessary. What about payload mass comparison? Historic launch costs were based on mass to orbit (LEO, HEO, other). Maybe that's because the size limits were whatever fits inside the fairing.
You got to see it in real life to grasp that rockets size, and it still is difficult to accept, then when it lifts off, it was messing with my standards of scale. Mark Twain had a word for something so big it blew your mind, think he characterized it as something that is Brobdingnagian.
Space exploration is fascinating. New "discoveries" almost weekly. Takes a lot of truly intelligent and ingenious people across all disciplines. And money. But damnit apply some (a lot) of that intelligence and ingenuity and money to cleaning up the the mess government has made here - on the good old earth. I thought we had a chance with DOGE, but it suddenly got the cold shoulder. Probably, "Hey stop it. You are getting to the butter on my side of the bread".
Did you know ... in the English speaking world outside the U.S.A., meters are measuring machines, such as speedometers, electric meters etcetera, or even the word used regarding your rate of speech. Whereas metres, spelt with the swapping of the fourth and fifth letters, is a measure of distance. Different words, different meanings.
While this may not perturb many of you in North America, for many of us 'foreigners' who actually speak English as a first (and original) language, it is as clanging as Americans saying wadder, instead of water.
We care exactly zero how Islamistan on the Thames spells words. We don't bother with u's in strange places, over here they are spelled labor, color, tire, and meter.
Your engineers build something comparable they can use whatever units they like to describe it. The people who've walked on the Moon use feet, inches, and pounds.
Judged by euroweenies? Go ahead and judge away. We are about to wash our hands of you if you dummies dont get your shit figured out. The US saved your pansy asses twice already, not sure about a third time! Besides, what good are your "metres" if you cannot shoot out to a thousand of them, LOL!
The Starship cargo volume and mass are very similar to that of a Lockheed C-5 Galaxy. The Galaxy cargo bay is longer and narrower, but the volume and mass are very close. That’s a LOT to put into orbit and reuse the launch platform. Give Musk a year or two and I’ll bet that the overall reliability and usage-factors would be better than the C-5. Wandering Neurons
Don't forget the 2100m² of stainless steel that's available, plus all of the internal structures. Add to that the carbon fibre tankage and the remaining propellant plus the 200 metric tons of cargo per payload.... and sign me up!
ReplyDeleteJumbo volume is really great and necessary. What about payload mass comparison? Historic launch costs were based on mass to orbit (LEO, HEO, other). Maybe that's because the size limits were whatever fits inside the fairing.
ReplyDeleteSo how many critics of manned space exploration and flat-Earthers can be fit into 1000 m cubed?
ReplyDeleteSo....how many pounds of thrust can it produce?
ReplyDeleteThe booster, Superheavy, produces about 17 millions lbs of thrust
DeleteYou got to see it in real life to grasp that rockets size, and it still is difficult to accept, then when it lifts off, it was messing with my standards of scale. Mark Twain had a word for something so big it blew your mind, think he characterized it as something that is Brobdingnagian.
ReplyDeleteThat was Swift, not Twain.
DeletePretty sure Swift is a trucking firm.
DeleteSpace exploration is fascinating. New "discoveries" almost weekly. Takes a lot of truly intelligent and ingenious people across all disciplines. And money. But damnit apply some (a lot) of that intelligence and ingenuity and money to cleaning up the the mess government has made here - on the good old earth. I thought we had a chance with DOGE, but it suddenly got the cold shoulder. Probably, "Hey stop it. You are getting to the butter on my side of the bread".
ReplyDeleteWhat are they gonna do with those Boeing fuselages in space?
ReplyDeleteDid you know ... in the English speaking world outside the U.S.A., meters are measuring machines, such as speedometers, electric meters etcetera, or even the word used regarding your rate of speech.
ReplyDeleteWhereas metres, spelt with the swapping of the fourth and fifth letters, is a measure of distance.
Different words, different meanings.
While this may not perturb many of you in North America, for many of us 'foreigners' who actually speak English as a first (and original) language, it is as clanging as Americans saying wadder, instead of water.
Please, feel judged.
No need for us to feel judged by an inferior.
DeleteWe care exactly zero how Islamistan on the Thames spells words. We don't bother with u's in strange places, over here they are spelled labor, color, tire, and meter.
DeleteYour engineers build something comparable they can use whatever units they like to describe it. The people who've walked on the Moon use feet, inches, and pounds.
Judged by euroweenies? Go ahead and judge away. We are about to wash our hands of you if you dummies dont get your shit figured out. The US saved your pansy asses twice already, not sure about a third time! Besides, what good are your "metres" if you cannot shoot out to a thousand of them, LOL!
DeleteTom762
Mr. Rocket, pound sand!
DeleteAmericans do not speak English. Americans speak American, it only approximates to English but is substantially different in many respects.
DeleteThe Starship cargo volume and mass are very similar to that of a Lockheed C-5 Galaxy. The Galaxy cargo bay is longer and narrower, but the volume and mass are very close. That’s a LOT to put into orbit and reuse the launch platform. Give Musk a year or two and I’ll bet that the overall reliability and usage-factors would be better than the C-5.
ReplyDeleteWandering Neurons
A whole solar system (and beyond) full of death.
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