And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
From experience in 15F below zero, you don't sleep, kind of doze, mostly you move around swapping out the places on your body that are going numb, where a body point presses hard against your bag till daylight, then suffer thru the day being mentally foggy from not enough REM sleep. Best remedy is a very well set up wind break, or snow pocket, helps a lot, or a leanto with a fire, or run your lantern in one of those spots, at those temps even a tiny bit of heat helps, but getting out of open and wind is critical. The eskimos had it right with igloos.
Been in extreme sub zero cold, its hard sleeping no matter what you do, getting out of the open air really makes a difference, was hunting/camping in November, cood front came thru, little thermometer i had read 18 negative F, so cold ice formed on outside of my canoe, only way out thru three connected lakes in a wilderness zone along the Canadian border, had to return re-set up camp, two nights it dropped to -22F, my bag was rated to -25F, yeah, riiiight, luckily had a surplus GI bivvy bag, unpacked that u bet, cut some spruce bows, which got me off the ground, just too cold, that modern stuff ain't what they claim, we all found out the hard way. More so, without an enclosed space and some form of heat differential, don't need much really, at those temps its truly a chore to keep warm enough to get real sleep. Yeah u can tough it out, but after a night or two, they are long nights believe u me, your gonna suffer serious mental issues, seen that too, one of the guys got so bad he would not trust a compass, and put a live round in his chamber, claiming we all where out to get him. Its what long term hypothermia does to some, its really crazy to see it take place in a friend. We all got a touch of hypo, I lost 35lbs in the week we where stranded. My body was in a state where I literally started eating raw dry cured bacon, one night, had a bottle of peach tree snaaps, drank it down straight whole bottle didn't get drunk. Ate a whole pecan pie in one setting. We had couple cases of large cans of dinty more, one can barely helped, had scored a doe on a camp meat permit, we made tge coyote's envious how well that deer was chewed to the bones, which we cracked for a big broth pot, in went every bit if scrap meat and fat. Threw in a whole lb of butter too. Thats how much fuel you need to stay warm. Lakes froze, had to leave the canos and the expedition tent/stove, bunch of other stuff, took 3 solid days dawn to dark to hike it out to the vehicles, knee high snow too, cross graining multiple ridges. Went in at 235 was 185 on the bath scale at the house. Took couple weeks till I felt over the hypo.
With an insulating pad underneath and a good bag it's not bad until you have to get out...
ReplyDeletePrecisely. Mummy bags are the Bomb.
DeleteFrom experience in 15F below zero, you don't sleep, kind of doze, mostly you move around swapping out the places on your body that are going numb, where a body point presses hard against your bag till daylight, then suffer thru the day being mentally foggy from not enough REM sleep. Best remedy is a very well set up wind break, or snow pocket, helps a lot, or a leanto with a fire, or run your lantern in one of those spots, at those temps even a tiny bit of heat helps, but getting out of open and wind is critical. The eskimos had it right with igloos.
ReplyDeleteIf it were that cold, they'd be in the same sleeping bag.
ReplyDeleteThis is a perfect example of "young and stupid."
ReplyDeleteYou can bet they're not about to have sex. At least not with each other.
ReplyDeleteAt -35 deg Fahrenheit, the hardest thing to do is to take a pee
ReplyDeleteUse a condom-catheter and a leg bag, then drain the bag ASAP.
DeleteThat still looks cold AF.
ReplyDeleteBeen in extreme sub zero cold, its hard sleeping no matter what you do, getting out of the open air really makes a difference, was hunting/camping in November, cood front came thru, little thermometer i had read 18 negative F, so cold ice formed on outside of my canoe, only way out thru three connected lakes in a wilderness zone along the Canadian border, had to return re-set up camp, two nights it dropped to -22F, my bag was rated to -25F, yeah, riiiight, luckily had a surplus GI bivvy bag, unpacked that u bet, cut some spruce bows, which got me off the ground, just too cold, that modern stuff ain't what they claim, we all found out the hard way. More so, without an enclosed space and some form of heat differential, don't need much really, at those temps its truly a chore to keep warm enough to get real sleep. Yeah u can tough it out, but after a night or two, they are long nights believe u me, your gonna suffer serious mental issues, seen that too, one of the guys got so bad he would not trust a compass, and put a live round in his chamber, claiming we all where out to get him. Its what long term hypothermia does to some, its really crazy to see it take place in a friend. We all got a touch of hypo, I lost 35lbs in the week we where stranded. My body was in a state where I literally started eating raw dry cured bacon, one night, had a bottle of peach tree snaaps, drank it down straight whole bottle didn't get drunk. Ate a whole pecan pie in one setting. We had couple cases of large cans of dinty more, one can barely helped, had scored a doe on a camp meat permit, we made tge coyote's envious how well that deer was chewed to the bones, which we cracked for a big broth pot, in went every bit if scrap meat and fat. Threw in a whole lb of butter too. Thats how much fuel you need to stay warm. Lakes froze, had to leave the canos and the expedition tent/stove, bunch of other stuff, took 3 solid days dawn to dark to hike it out to the vehicles, knee high snow too, cross graining multiple ridges. Went in at 235 was 185 on the bath scale at the house. Took couple weeks till I felt over the hypo.
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