"The Navy is sending a second aircraft carrier strike group to the Asia Pacific region amid new tensions with China over a dangerous aerial encounter between a Chinese interceptor and Navy P-8 surveillance craft.
The strike group led by the USS Carl Vinson departed San Diego for the Pacific on Friday, the Navy said in an announcement of what it terms a “planned” deployment.
China’s military on Saturday, meanwhile, demanded an end to all U.S. monitoring flights and called U.S. criticism of dangerous Chinese jet maneuvers false.
Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Yang Yujun said in a statement that a Chinese fighter jet made a “regular identification and verification” of the Navy P-8 anti-submarine warfare jet during an encounter in an area 135 miles east of Hainan Island.
Yang called Pentagon criticism of the incident “totally groundless” and insisted the Chinese pilot operated professionally and kept a safe distance.
The Chinese spokesman’s account, published in the state-run Xinhua news agency, is at odds with Pentagon officials who called the encounter both dangerous and aggressive. A White House official also said the dangerous intercept was a Chinese “provocation.”
Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby on Friday called the maneuvers by the Chinese J-11—a Russian design Su-27—a dangerous and unprofessional encounter and said the military has protested the incident to the Chinese military.
“We have registered our strong concerns to the Chinese about the unsafe and unprofessional intercept, which posed a risk to the safety and the well-being of the air crew and was inconsistent with customary international law,” Kirby said, adding that the pilot of the J-11 was “very, very close; very dangerous.”
Asked Saturday about Yang’s assertion, Kirby told the Free Beacon: “We stand by our account of this dangerous and unprofessional incident.”
The Carl Vinson strike group will patrol “both 5th and 7th Fleet areas of responsibility,” the Navy statement said The 7th fleet covers the Pacific and the 5th Fleet is responsible for operations in the Middle East."
Why the Red Chinese think a hot conflict with the US would get them anything but grief escapes me, but it seems that they truly wish to test their military strength against the former hegemon. Perhaps the quality of our president is encouraging them into such an adventure, but in the end, it is the American people, not the president, who they will be sparring with, and they will not be so easily pushed around once the people are aroused.
The Chinese like to push the paper tiger, led by a cowardly buffoon and a vice buffoon who is just as bad. As you point out, it might turn out rather worse but that's the danger of voting for a fool. Elections have consequences.
ReplyDeleteI'll risk saying it again because it seems that it must be repeated again and again. The United States did not WIN the last war that we fought with Red China. What do you think changed that made it possible for US to impose our will on all of communist China in the last 69 years?
ReplyDeleteThey merely have to extend their hand to take what we cannot and will not defend. ASEAN? They should have armed themselves and formed a meaningful version of NATO. They might even have called it SEATO and tried to drag the US in to keep the Chinese out.
But they didn't and since they were never there for us, I see no reason at all to be there for them. On the other hand, it's not too late for them. They have time to mend their relations with US but, sadly, they now get to try that with the Won and his State Department of Folly.
Nonsense. What could go wrong. Barry will have this solved before the turn at hole #9.....
ReplyDeleteWhy the Red Chinese think a hot conflict with the US would get them anything but grief escapes me
ReplyDeleteWhat?
Really think about this for a minute or two. They just successfully tested (for the second time) a hypersonic (Mach 10+) glide missile designed specifically to out perform all point defence systems on our vaunted carriers. They have conducted several ASAT tests, and currently posses the only functional ASAT weapons on the planet; designed specifically to destroy GPS satellites -without which all our "smart" weapons are useless, without which all our navigational instruments on planes and ships are -useless. Finally, they are still a State run, Communist "economy" that does not give a damn about selling useless crap to Wally-World -but has the power to dump so much US debt paper onto the world market that they could cause overnight hyperinflation here; crashing what little remains of our economy.
Meanwhile, the "Arsenal of Democracy" has been flushed down Detoilet and we no longer have a well enough educated public to perform the miracles of manufacturing that won WW2. Add to that a gutless and most likely traitorous fraud occupies Penna Ave, and similar corruptocrats infest every other level of the government.
Where exactly is all this grief Red China faces again? What, are we going to drop the bio-weapons Hillary and Swift Boat on them? Seriously, any "grief" we could have sent them has been pissed away over the past sixty years -since the last time our political fraudsters failed to directly beat them (in Korea.)
The US only has the man power to "man" FOUR carriers and their battle groups at any one time, dew to downsizing and "sequestration". We only have enough infantry to fight the Chines for 100 hours-IF- we manage to get what is left of the "heavy" force out of moth balls and overseas, BEFORE the start of hostilities. If not they have about THREE DAY's V. ether the Chinese or Russians. Our air force will need to shoot down 50 CPAF or RRAF aircraft for EVERY USAF loss- PER DAY- just to survive. We have "mothballed" so many aircraft since Obama was elected in 2008 and cut funding for training so drastically that a "ten to one" kill ratio is doubtful. We ARE NOT going to "war" with China OR Russia because we CAN'T, and -IF- we try fighting ether or both , we face unconditional surrender of US forces within five days We have no replacements , no reserves and no industry. Our military is made up of 1970s-1980's THEC. that is worn out from 25 years of "mid east adventures" Its manpower down to pre WW-2 levels (less than 750000 infantry in the ENTIRE us armed forces) Its funding cut so deeply that the troops in combat NOW are scraping the depots for Vietnam/cold war era heavy weapons to replace the worn out junk they are saddled with. If we start today it will take one to two YEARS just to find and train enough military forces to defend the CONUS . An "offensive force" would be impossible to field for YEARS. "US Military might" is nothing but myth and memory. This is NOTHING but a bluff by the pentagon, and the Chinese and Russians know it.
ReplyDeleteChina's current wealth is built on trade. Their current economic success is entirely dependent on that trade continuing. They have billions of their wealth invested in treasury bonds.
DeleteOnce they set off a hot war with us/allies, that trade comes to a screeching halt. Their treasuries are declared worthless. The Chinese people suddenly realize that their government, whose legitimacy is solely based on the prosperity that the adoption of capitalism has brought, has stupidly impoverished them. They rebel against an already brittle government, and now there is an internal war as well as an external war. Meanwhile, China runs out of food and fuel, both of which they must obtain through the trade with the rest of the world that is now non existent. Game over.
Sorry to argue CW, but they realize that paper "wealth" is just that -paper. Why do you think they have 2 currencies? One for international trade and another for domestic use? They have billions of scraps of paper invested in our billions or trillions of scraps of paper.
DeleteSo what if trade with us comes to a screeching halt; those industries simply convert to wartime production and their economy moves right along while their territory grows exponentially. You do not need to "but" stuff with fiat currency when you control the territory the "stuff" comes from. Besides, nothing solidifies a "brittle" government like a foreign war -right?
Runs out of food and fuel -why? They import next to none of either from us, and I am sure Russia would be very happy to continue supplying their fuel oil needs while watching us get kicked in the balls.
China's current "wealth" is power. Period. And power begets power -that is all they care about; not silly slips of paper that we like to pretend have some intrinsic value beyond the paper and ink they are printed of.
Oh, argue away, no worries. We might get to see who is right soon enough. The Russians might supply them with some of their fuel needs, but I don't know how much they are set up to provide through Siberia. Consider also that the Chinese have, through their bullying, surrounded themselves with hostile neighbors. Other than the North Koreans and maybe the Pakis, they are out there by themselves, and with restive, hostile internal populations in Tibet and Xinjiang.
DeleteTrade won't just come to a halt with us, but with the Western world, which still nominally believes in the rule of international law. If the western world has to choose sides, my money is on a fellow member of the club, not with an expansionist, communist China. They have to trade, and although they may be able to replace some trade with us, they can't replace it all, and you can bet the US will do all it can to make everyone else stop their commerce with the chinese. In most cases, I don't see that as being too difficult, given the bullying the Chinese have been doing, and the importance of the US economy to the rest of the world. I believe the Chinese also enjoy a very favorable balance of trade with us. That would be a big loss to them. They lose Japan and Korea, the Philippines, Vietnam, Europe, India. What's left, the Russians? Not a good trade.