And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
I agree! He was not defending 'right' - he was punishing the South for exercising their Constitutional right to secede. Not that that document allows it - it does not specifically forbid it. The Declaration of Independence states the reason for secession succinctly, though: That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
Sherman had a job to do & it seems he did it well, 159 years later it's remembered.
I'm from the west coast and the civil war was old history, nothing personal. Can you imagine my surprise when I found someone celebrating his birthday on the internet or the hate that his name brought up? It reminded me of the old hates I read about from Bosnia-Croatia-Serbia area.
To call Sherman a monster is not hate. It is simply an acknowledgement of what he was. He was also regarded as mentally unbalanced and feared being relieved after Shiloh because of it.
According to the book, Sherman’s men killed very few people in the March to the Sea. He won most of his battles by maneuver instead of bloody frontal charges, and his men loved him for it. His army humiliated the south, and that’s why they never forgave him.
The book is excellent. I highly recommend it. It’s a ver unique view.
It’s debatable whether Sherman had a mental breakdown after Bull Run. He was deemed crazy for predicting that the North would have to form a vast army and kill 300,000 confederates at a time when everyone thought it would be a quick war, yet his predictions were exactly correct. Read the book. It’s excellent.
The book is about the commonalities between the three generals. They all had been persecuted at some point, were military visionaries who led daring drives deep into enemy territory when no one else thought it possible, freed vast numbers of slaves, and whenever possible avoided head-on infantry collisions.
Entire cities were wiped out down to the last man, woman and child, by the army of the liberator. VDH, for all of what he may have gotten right in others places, is a complete shill for the victorious North.
From Sherman's own words: “Until we can repopulate Georgia, it is useless for us to occupy it; but the utter destruction of its roads, houses and people will cripple their military resources. I can make this march, and make Georgia howl.”
Yep, it sounds as if he was very concerned about saving Southern lives.
Oh, horseshit, Greg. Exaggerate much? He wasn't the second coming of Genghis Khan, for gawd's sake. The slice of Georgia that was "depopulated" was because people had fled. Confederate deserters became as much a plague on Georgian civilians as any of Sherman's troops. 🙄
Douglas MacArthur was the Army Chief of Staff and commander of the troops that put down the Bonus Army. Junior officers included both Patton and Eisenhower.
In the eyes and empty brains of today's "woke" weenies, any truly successful, strong, forthright leader would be viewed as a "monster." When leaders think with their brains instead of their hearts, the libtards hate them.
Case in point is the gentleman fighting tooth and nail against the "New World Order" so that America can be great again.
Some in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia view Phil Sheridan as a lesser Sherman. "The Valley" was the “breadbasket of the Confederacy”. Sheridan’s predecessor had been ordered to “eat out Virginia clear and clean as far as the Rebels] go, so that crows flying over it for the balance of this season will have to carry their provender with them.” Later on, Grant ordered Sheridan. “If the war is to last another year, we want the Shenandoah Valley to remain a barren waste.”
I beg to differ. I’ll take the Greek General and Patton, you can have Sherman. The guy was a friggen monster, history should remember him as such.
ReplyDeleteI agree! He was not defending 'right' - he was punishing the South for exercising their Constitutional right to secede. Not that that document allows it - it does not specifically forbid it. The Declaration of Independence states the reason for secession succinctly, though:
DeleteThat, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
Sherman had a job to do & it seems he did it well, 159 years later it's remembered.
DeleteI'm from the west coast and the civil war was old history, nothing personal. Can you imagine my surprise when I found someone celebrating his birthday on the internet or the hate that his name brought up?
It reminded me of the old hates I read about from Bosnia-Croatia-Serbia area.
IMHO most of those idiots doing the "hating" are poorly educated (or totally indoctrinated) "woke" weenies who have no clue what history really is.
DeleteTo call Sherman a monster is not hate. It is simply an acknowledgement of what he was. He was also regarded as mentally unbalanced and feared being relieved after Shiloh because of it.
DeleteAccording to the book, Sherman’s men killed very few people in the March to the Sea. He won most of his battles by maneuver instead of bloody frontal charges, and his men loved him for it. His army humiliated the south, and that’s why they never forgave him.
DeleteThe book is excellent. I highly recommend it. It’s a ver unique view.
It’s debatable whether Sherman had a mental breakdown after Bull Run. He was deemed crazy for predicting that the North would have to form a vast army and kill 300,000 confederates at a time when everyone thought it would be a quick war, yet his predictions were exactly correct. Read the book. It’s excellent.
DeleteVDH despises the South. Excellent writer, but that turns me off to fund his beliefs.
DeleteThe book is about the commonalities between the three generals. They all had been persecuted at some point, were military visionaries who led daring drives deep into enemy territory when no one else thought it possible, freed vast numbers of slaves, and whenever possible avoided head-on infantry collisions.
DeleteEntire cities were wiped out down to the last man, woman and child, by the army of the liberator. VDH, for all of what he may have gotten right in others places, is a complete shill for the victorious North.
DeleteFrom Sherman's own words: “Until we can repopulate Georgia, it is useless for us to occupy it; but the utter destruction of its roads, houses and people will cripple their military resources. I can make this march, and make Georgia howl.”
Yep, it sounds as if he was very concerned about saving Southern lives.
Oh, horseshit, Greg. Exaggerate much? He wasn't the second coming of Genghis Khan, for gawd's sake. The slice of Georgia that was "depopulated" was because people had fled. Confederate deserters became as much a plague on Georgian civilians as any of Sherman's troops. 🙄
DeleteWasn't Patton part of the army that put down the "Bonus Army"?
ReplyDeleteJust canon fodder for them
I am pretty sure that at the time (post WW-1) Patton was a junior officer following his boss' orders.
DeleteNo, that was "Black Jack" Pershing.
DeleteDouglas MacArthur was the Army Chief of Staff and commander of the troops that put down the Bonus Army. Junior officers included both Patton and Eisenhower.
DeleteI'm a general Curtis "If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting" LeMay fan. direct and to the point.
ReplyDeleteGen. LeMay also said, "Bomb them back to the Stone Age"!!!
DeleteHe was George Wallace's VP in the 1968 Election.
DeleteIn the eyes and empty brains of today's "woke" weenies, any truly successful, strong, forthright leader would be viewed as a "monster." When leaders think with their brains instead of their hearts, the libtards hate them.
ReplyDeleteCase in point is the gentleman fighting tooth and nail against the "New World Order" so that America can be great again.
Read Hanson, read Sowell.
ReplyDelete^^^^This^^^^
DeleteSome in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia view Phil Sheridan as a lesser Sherman.
ReplyDelete"The Valley" was the “breadbasket of the Confederacy”. Sheridan’s predecessor had been ordered to “eat out Virginia clear and clean as far as the Rebels] go, so that crows flying over it for the balance of this season will have to carry their provender with them.” Later on, Grant ordered Sheridan. “If the war is to last another year, we want the Shenandoah Valley to remain a barren waste.”