And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Lived in ND for 50 years and as the commenter above said, got tired of 40 below windchill. County my parents live is 1700 sq miles and 2000 people. It's desolate.
After a trip to Kansas City back in the '90's, I told my boss that it seemed like a nice place. His reply, having grown up in Eastern Washington and been in the Air Force in Nebraska, "You want to experience a mid-Western winter before you get too excited."
I lived in the Colorado Rockies for 10 years and wood stoves are great. But splitting 15 cords of wood every summer isn't. And shoveling 3 ft of snow and chipping ice at 6 in the morning is a drag. When I moved I considered going north, for about 5 minutes.
It isn't bad in the winter - minus 20F usually, except for six weeks every winter, it goes to -35 to -45F...... but they are split up into two week bursts. If you have a beard, it freezes; if you are clean-shaven, your chin and lips freeze so bad, you talk with a lisp. If you like snow, you won't after spending a winter here - particularly after shoveling your drive for two hours, only to return from work and getting stuck in the same driveway. Summers aren't bad - except for the humidity, roving gangs of horseflies that will gang-rape you and steal your wallet..... that's after the mosquitos and blackflies have drained your blood so dry, Vampires would starve. Moose are plentiful, and they like to wander on the roads at night (don't forget, there is no reflection from their eyes) and compete with the deer, antelope, foxes, porcupines, skunks (they ALL show up at the same time of year....WTF?) coyotes, wolves, cougars (and the ones in the bar,) and the occasional wolverine.
Interestingly, you rarely see hitch hikers......... ever. They must all stay in BC.
yeah, right. the bad part is there is nothing but maybe 100 barbwire fences between you and the North pole. winters can and often are a stone bitch. wind chill kills out there all the time.
There is nothing like the warmth of a +1° (f) day after a couple weeks of minus temps...like the high was -10f over that time. When I realized that I also realized it was time to go somewhere else. And that's how my 13 year vacation in the upper Midwest ended...
Billings and Havre both are very nice. What do they feed people there? Last time I was there, all the women, and I'm even talking the ones in their forties, are ALL easy on the eyes; the guys are all built like brick s***houses. AND Not many people there are seen without a smile. Most everyone is so polite, you think you might be in a Stephen King novel.
My daughter lived in Brussels, Belgium. She said she was two hours from Paris, two hours from Amsterdam, and two hours from London. I'm two hours from Miles City (pop 8400), two hours from Cody (pop 10,000), and two hours from Bozeman (pop 53,000). I repented and moved back here after living four miles from the beach in San Diego, County.
None of the state tourism departments in these states have an easy sell. With so few people living in this area there's no one here that doesn't want to be. Yeah the weather is a contact sport at times and it'll kill you if your stupid. Most folks have to actually work to make a living. That being said I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I know my neighbors and they know me. There were NO drive by shootings in my state today and there won't be any tomorrow. There's probably more guns per capita in the borders of that map than anywhere else in the nation. I'd dare say there's also a much below national average murder rate.
I live in Northen Idaho. I echo the comments above. Don’t move here. It really is paradise and not a blue-state hellhole. The more Blue-staters that move here, the more they want to turn Idaho into what they are fleeing.
I have a question for those of you who say "Don't move to my part of the world". What would you say if CW Swanson moved to your neighborhood? What would you do if a Californian moved next door and you gave him enough of a chance to discover he's actually more enlightened on current happenings and more conservative politically than you are? Would you then demand that he move back to where he came from? Or would you just hate his guts in perpetuity and bad vibe him every time you see him?
A few years back, a Texas think tank did a study and discovered people who moved there from California voted more conservatively than native Texans do by a margin of almost 10%. Perhaps that's the reason why they moved to Texas. Perhaps they just wanted to live in a place where their conservative votes actually count for something and they aren't being constantly lectured to by some greasy haired grifter while being taxed to death in order to save the planet from Climate Change.
My wife and I are examples of that. I lived back East (PA/WV) and moved to So. Cal. after college (Va. Tech). I met her in Orange County - very conservative (parents were Goldwater conservatives). moved to TX in early 90's - enjoy the conservative nature of TX. We have become proud Texans after 30 years - love the culture here.
Gadds!! I love my Maine winters. Other than an occasional homeless popsicle and a mis directed Masshole (asshole from Massachusetts), things are pretty nice around here in late fall and early winter. Then comes snowmobile season when I 95 gets clogged with more massholes overdriving their jacked up urban assault pickups hauling $50k trailers with four or five $25k snowmobiles that end up not only in the ditch but 50 feet out into the trees because they hit a patch of ice at 98 mph with cruise control on and deep in conversation with their handheld texting device. At least the truck is safer than hitting a tree at 98 mph on a fiberglass, plastic, and aluminum crotch rocket snowmobile because you were going too fast to see the caution signs a ways back on the trail.
I used to live up there, got tired of the cold.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard country. People are concentrated so lot's of empty.
ReplyDeleteLived in ND for 50 years and as the commenter above said, got tired of 40 below windchill. County my parents live is 1700 sq miles and 2000 people. It's desolate.
ReplyDeleteThank you, sir. Desolate is the word I was seeking.
DeleteAfter a trip to Kansas City back in the '90's, I told my boss that it seemed like a nice place. His reply, having grown up in Eastern Washington and been in the Air Force in Nebraska, "You want to experience a mid-Western winter before you get too excited."
ReplyDeleteKeeps the riff raff out. All you pussies complaining about the cold must have never been told about wood stoves.
ReplyDeleteThat's how I feel about hurricanes & the heat down on the gulf, keeps people like you away.
DeleteI lived in the Colorado Rockies for 10 years and wood stoves are great. But splitting 15 cords of wood every summer isn't. And shoveling 3 ft of snow and chipping ice at 6 in the morning is a drag. When I moved I considered going north, for about 5 minutes.
DeleteWhen I left Minnesota I looked for somewhere without a real winter.
DeleteI tried living in Montana, only lasted 4 years. Too hot in the summers and too many people. Moved back to Alaska last fall.
ReplyDeleteMakes you wonder about the Canadians further north.
ReplyDeletefarther ;)
DeleteIt isn't bad in the winter - minus 20F usually, except for six weeks every winter, it goes to -35 to -45F...... but they are split up into two week bursts. If you have a beard, it freezes; if you are clean-shaven, your chin and lips freeze so bad, you talk with a lisp. If you like snow, you won't after spending a winter here - particularly after shoveling your drive for two hours, only to return from work and getting stuck in the same driveway.
DeleteSummers aren't bad - except for the humidity, roving gangs of horseflies that will gang-rape you and steal your wallet..... that's after the mosquitos and blackflies have drained your blood so dry, Vampires would starve. Moose are plentiful, and they like to wander on the roads at night (don't forget, there is no reflection from their eyes) and compete with the deer, antelope, foxes, porcupines, skunks (they ALL show up at the same time of year....WTF?) coyotes, wolves, cougars (and the ones in the bar,) and the occasional wolverine.
Interestingly, you rarely see hitch hikers......... ever. They must all stay in BC.
No anon 0741. Perhaps you missed that day of school? Anon 0726 is correct, you fucking idiot.
DeleteGood. Stay the fuck out of my central Idaho.
ReplyDelete2% of America's population, 98% of America's ethylene glycol use.
ReplyDeleteWhat? I thought everyone had a favorite flavor. My bad.
DeleteDoesn't the Federal Government (BLM) own most of the land in that area?
ReplyDeleteNot hardly.
Deletehttps://ballotpedia.org/Federal_land_ownership_by_state
Especially compared to Nevada, which leads the pack at over 80% Fed ownership.
No people= paradise.
ReplyDeleteyeah, right. the bad part is there is nothing but maybe 100 barbwire fences between you and the North pole. winters can and often are a stone bitch.
ReplyDeletewind chill kills out there all the time.
Bloom where you're planted.
ReplyDeleteProbably the smartest people in the country, if you don't mind snow.
ReplyDeleteDaughter-in-law from Wyoming. She and son now live in SW Utah. She told me she only had so many below zero days in her system and they were used up.
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing like the warmth of a +1° (f) day after a couple weeks of minus temps...like the high was -10f over that time.
DeleteWhen I realized that I also realized it was time to go somewhere else.
And that's how my 13 year vacation in the upper Midwest ended...
California is ideal...except for the people...
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DeleteBillings has sufficient lonliness not far out of town, and the town proper a nice place.
ReplyDeleteBillings and Havre both are very nice.
DeleteWhat do they feed people there? Last time I was there, all the women, and I'm even talking the ones in their forties, are ALL easy on the eyes; the guys are all built like brick s***houses.
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Not many people there are seen without a smile. Most everyone is so polite, you think you might be in a Stephen King novel.
I spent some time at Eielson AFB in Fairbanks, -35F temps and -60F wind chills are brutal.
ReplyDeleteMy daughter lived in Brussels, Belgium. She said she was two hours from Paris, two hours from Amsterdam, and two hours from London. I'm two hours from Miles City (pop 8400), two hours from Cody (pop 10,000), and two hours from Bozeman (pop 53,000). I repented and moved back here after living four miles from the beach in San Diego, County.
ReplyDeleteNone of the state tourism departments in these states have an easy sell. With so few people living in this area there's no one here that doesn't want to be. Yeah the weather is a contact sport at times and it'll kill you if your stupid. Most folks have to actually work to make a living. That being said I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I know my neighbors and they know me. There were NO drive by shootings in my state today and there won't be any tomorrow. There's probably more guns per capita in the borders of that map than anywhere else in the nation. I'd dare say there's also a much below national average murder rate.
ReplyDeleteFAFO, SS&SU and Praise the Lord territory.
DeleteI live in Northen Idaho.
ReplyDeleteI echo the comments above. Don’t move here. It really is paradise and not a blue-state hellhole.
The more Blue-staters that move here, the more they want to turn Idaho into what they are fleeing.
Sturgis SD, too much snow in the winter and a flood of motorcycles in the summer.
ReplyDeleteWith more than 5 decades in the desert SW...I'd much rather try to get warm than cool off.
ReplyDeleteI have a question for those of you who say "Don't move to my part of the world". What would you say if CW Swanson moved to your neighborhood? What would you do if a Californian moved next door and you gave him enough of a chance to discover he's actually more enlightened on current happenings and more conservative politically than you are? Would you then demand that he move back to where he came from? Or would you just hate his guts in perpetuity and bad vibe him every time you see him?
ReplyDeleteA few years back, a Texas think tank did a study and discovered people who moved there from California voted more conservatively than native Texans do by a margin of almost 10%. Perhaps that's the reason why they moved to Texas. Perhaps they just wanted to live in a place where their conservative votes actually count for something and they aren't being constantly lectured to by some greasy haired grifter while being taxed to death in order to save the planet from Climate Change.
My wife and I are examples of that. I lived back East (PA/WV) and moved to So. Cal. after college (Va. Tech). I met her in Orange County - very conservative (parents were Goldwater conservatives). moved to TX in early 90's - enjoy the conservative nature of TX. We have become proud Texans after 30 years - love the culture here.
DeleteGadds!!
ReplyDeleteI love my Maine winters.
Other than an occasional homeless popsicle and a mis directed Masshole (asshole from Massachusetts), things are pretty nice around here in late fall and early winter.
Then comes snowmobile season when I 95 gets clogged with more massholes overdriving their jacked up urban assault pickups hauling $50k trailers with four or five $25k snowmobiles that end up not only in the ditch but 50 feet out into the trees because they hit a patch of ice at 98 mph with cruise control on and deep in conversation with their handheld texting device.
At least the truck is safer than hitting a tree at 98 mph on a fiberglass, plastic, and aluminum crotch rocket snowmobile because you were going too fast to see the caution signs a ways back on the trail.